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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 183 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Tax the rich!

…And we voted in the wealthiest man in history and a narcissistic luxury hotel magnate, who openly touted a regressive tax plan, to do it?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Makes perfect sense to some, I'm sure.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Somehow they've been convinced that the lower/middle class pays taxes so migrants and other minorities can live like the people they elected and Republicans are the ones fighting to protect them from Democrats who want all their money.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 177 points 1 week ago

"So your proposal to solve (the debt) is to tax the rich?"

"So your proposal to solve the empty gas tank is to put gas in the tank?"

"So your proposal to solve the dog getting out of the yard is to repair the fence?"

"So your proposal to solve the problem of not being able to see is to put on your glasses?"

Bro. It's the most obvious solution. It also has the added benefit of being the only one that's proven to work.

Being a representative whose mind doesn't immediately jump to that solution is like being a truck driver and not immediately jumping to the solution of slamming on the brakes when you're speeding toward a red light: it's not a difference of opinion or policy, it's dangerous negligence. Why are you holding meetings about this? If you're dedicated to not slamming on the brakes, just try swerving into the daycare playground or whatever your twisted idea is. Don't hold a town hall asking for a rubber stamp on plowing through the toddlers, and definitely don't act surprised when your constituents react in horror and propose using the brakes instead.

[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 176 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Love how he thinks the idea of taxing the rich is so ridiculous that merely repeating it back to the audience is a counter argument.

We really need to get the money out of politics.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To be fair, I understand his confusion.

You guys voted in a rapist felon along with his billionaire buddies, and now you want the opposite? Did you not understand your vote?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

It's a hilarious failure to gaslight an entire town hall by himself.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

To him it’s ridiculous because they give him so much money. He can’t fathom another point of view.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 week ago

"best I can do is a tax cut for those making over $250k"

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 139 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The reason Luigi is so popular with Americans is because he is a microcosm example of the Sociopathic Oligarch's worst nightmare - The average American rising up to literally KILL the wealthy. He is just one man with one victim, but what if he were multiplied by hundreds, or thousands, or millions?

The way black people felt about OJ, is now being felt by all working class Americans toward Luigi. So the wealthy, and the system, want to punish him harshly as an example to the rest of us, while we are plotting ways for him to escape punishment.

When the people are demanding a reasonable solution, and they are dismissed by the goverment in favor of punishing Americans in order to benefit the Sociopathic Oligarchs at our expense - AGAIN! - the Free Market will find an alternative, and nothing frightens them more than the threat of Luigi's Solution catching fire, and becoming a trend.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Can you expand on how it’s comparable to OJ? The guy killed his (ex) partner. To me, that’s much different.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

OJ didnt kill his partner, he killed his ex-wife, but that's not the point.

The point is that in both cases, the killer and the victim have taken on symbolic roles for different segments of society. In OJs case, he represented black citizens, especially those in LA, who had been brutally, systematically discriminated against by the LAPD for decades, while his white victim became symbolic of white crime victims at the hands of black criminals.

In Luigi's case, he has come to represent the people who have been systematically discriminated against by corporations in general, but especially by the breath-takingly corrupt health care insurance system, while the corporate serial-killer CEO has come to represent the Sociopathic Oligarchs and amoral trans-national corporations who ruthlessly, sociopathically exploit every hard-working American. Obviously, the Sociopathic Oligarchs dont share the same perspective. Like all ultra-wealthy, they think that they are the victims, and that poor people get ALL the breaks.

It should be noted that neither set out to be a symbolic example for American society, or at least OJ didn't. He was a fucking dickhead, who had the world by the balls, and just threw it all away in a stupid jealous rage, probably exacerbated by steroids.

Luigi may have hoped he would kick off a movement, and he has, but we don't know what his motivations truly were because he's not admitting to anything, as he should. He still has a chance to get acquitted based on his face not being seen in the murder video. That alone is enough for a juror to claim reasonable doubt, so he should keep claiming his innocence.

The bottom line is that we, as a society, apply these symbolic roles to these people, outside of their control. Those that deliberately try to set off a revolution, usually fail, like Charles Manson trying to touch of Helter Skelter (his designation for a race war) with his mass murders. Other examples of those who have been assigned symbolic societal roles include Trayvon Martin/ George Zimmerman, or the murders of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, etc.

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[–] ThinkBeforeYouPost@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Excellent point! I feel like Americans don't like to understand that practically everyone in the U.S. is working class now. If you cannot quit your job tomorrow and live off of passive, savings, and residuals you are working class. The system is designed to facilitate this, with spartan social safety nets and lack of pensions. It's shit-tier by developed nation standards.

What's that other quote, ~"it only takes 3.5% of the population to generate massive change"? Obviously I am being flippant in this specific instance, but America is a failed democracy and empire in decline.

There is hope, but it requires taking back the power by direct action.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mark Penn and Malcolm Gladwell (and many others, im sure) have both written about micro-trends, and how it takes such a small amount of the population - 2 or 3% - to reach a "Tipping Point," and force major change.

Its the reason the Conservative Propaganda Machine works so hard to keep us so confused and at each other's throats. They know that if even 3-5% of the population turns on them, they are royally fucked.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 108 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Nah I say we make some cuts to the capitalists

[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

I'd rather see Elon spend life in Solitary Confinement. It would be the ultimate irony that the same government he did his best destroy takes away his freedom for life.

He should have it worse than the average prisoner though. Padded white cell with nothing in it, and maybe he has to wear a straight jacket on the weekends. He'll also only eat Nutraloaf.

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 93 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What response was he expecting??

"TAX THE RICH!!!"

"So your solution is to tax the rich?"

"Oh... Well now that you put it that way... No I guess not."

[–] silverlose@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s so stupid, it could wrap around to being unbelievable. If only I hadn’t seen so much stupidity in such a small time, that is.

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[–] Redditsux@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] b34k@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m sure whatever he said after that clip ends was in effort to gaslight that crowd into thinking taxing the rich is somehow a bad thing.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

BuT thEYRe jOb CrEAtOrs!!!

ThEYrE pHilANthrOPists!!

INovAtIOn! ThEYrE iNnovATorS!!!

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I loved the “job creators” argument because it is super easy to disprove.

If my company that has one employee makes twice the profits off the same number of orders as it made last year Im not hiring anyone because I don’t need to despite being able to afford it. What would make me hire someone else is the volume of orders increasing past the point where I can fill them hence the customers are the job creators.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And customers are created by average people having disposable income. Want jobs created? Tax the rich and spread that to the working class. EZPZ.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 week ago

We now have 5 decades of solid evidence that trickle-down economics don't work. Anyone still claiming the contrary is either a) delusional or b) rich.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 76 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Wait till you hear what rich folks say about that plan!

https://patrioticmillionaires.org/

(Spoiler: A lot of them agree)

[–] cuteness@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Warren Buffet has been pointing this out for at least 20 years. Bill Gates for at least 6. It’s crazy how the most famous billionaires haven’t moved the needle.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The dipshits will continue to vote GOP, don't worry.

I'll tax the rich!

He's a socialist!!

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If they refuse to tax them, I say we EAT them.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago

What about their legs? They don't need their legs

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Thing about a class war is it only works as long as you can subdivide the lower classes and make them hate each other.

Even the GOP base has figured out that the boot on their neck belongs to the rich, probably thanks to Elon's haphazard culling of govt employees, specifically veterans, while preserving funds that benefit the rich.

Say what you will about conservative voters, but when something is obviously harming them specifically they will go after it, and Trump's administration has finally blundered enough to wake at least some of them up.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I mean think about it guy you've been cutting taxes for the Rich for 50 years and the debt has gone up remarkably. It ain't rocket science.

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[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why not tax those that can afford it?

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because I might be rich someday, and if that happens I'm going to want even more money. Or something like that.

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[–] Graves396@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please provide the link, I want to see this for myself...

[–] Gudl@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago

Tax them or eat them.

[–] bayernspezl@lemmy.wtf 22 points 1 week ago

How long do you think it will take, that trump ist making the words "Tax the Rich" a illegal pharse because i dont know ...... Maybe terrorism or some other stupid cause for that phrase?

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