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I've opened Lemmy today to lots of anti Canadian sentiment on any recent comments about how messed up 'murica is and it's constant attacks on Canadian sovereignty.

Don't get sucked in. Let them yell into a void. The online campaign has begun in earnest on Lemmy and it's time to point it out and recognise it for what it is.

These are not real people. They are actors trying to affect our decisions as always happens when American exceptionalism is challenged. Our government had the balls to stand up and say no. We have the balls to do the same. They do not like it and will attack you for it.

Don't fall for the bait.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 31 minutes ago

I'm guessing whomever/wherever you're seeing is either defederated or, more likely, blocked by me. In any case, pay them no mind if you do see them.

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

Only Nazis hate Canadians. Because we are very good at destroying Nazis. It’s our national past time.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 24 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Lol wut. I think its bots. Very few people hate Canadians.

I wanted to ask - Where on the fediverse are people seeing this? I took a quick peek at lemmy.world/c/politics and lemmy.world/c/world (in particular https://lemmy.world/post/26969666 ) and I didn't see anything like what this post is describing there.

A lot of the comments from this post point to examples from Spez's site or Musk's site, which would make more sense to me. But lemmy? C'mon..

[–] Aphelion@lemm.ee 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who lives in America, I would like to say, please keep it up my Canadian friends! The more the rest of the world buys and builds their own, the more you undermine Lil Donnie's Fascist Clown Show, and create better options for everyone in the long-term.

Breaking U.S. tech dominance is one of the best ways the put some equality back in the world.

[–] Duranie@leminal.space 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

As a fellow American, I have nothing but love for our Canadian neighbors!

Whatever happens the next few years, I can only hope we get the opportunity to have an election and vote some adults back in, and start repairing relationships. Yes, I threw up a little with that. πŸ˜’.

Definitely not the case that all USians are following the current mad prez...

Heck, Canada remains a favourite for many from the US still, see https://www.thepinknews.com/2025/03/12/donald-trump-transphobia-us-family-seeking-asylum/ (and good luck to them!)

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 37 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I’m not seeing a lot of this thankfully β€” makes me wonder if a lot of these anti-Canada posts are coming from a particular instance I’ve already blocked.

[–] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

First thing that came across my mind when i read this post, "oh thats what hexbears up to now."

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

????

I mean like them or not I don't think Hexbear users would be doing that. They'd be excited to see the isolation and collapse of the US empire.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 39 minutes ago

Canada's still part of the West. Therefore, evil and bad according to those folk.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's just ramping up on the bot farms, they're really looking for angles to blame Canada for bird flu and just being rude (irony, I know).

It's been slow to get traction, most people don't care and don't want a political fight this soon after the election.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 1 points 37 minutes ago

I don't think the bot farms will be targeting the six of us on Lemmy who are all relatively technically inclined. Probably aimed at the masses on the larger platforms.

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is even more rampant and unchecked on Reddit - the Buy Canadian subreddit is infested with either outright "MURRICA FUKKKIN A BRO" types or the more subtle "concern trolls"


"Won't you miss this product? What will you do when you can't afford things anymore? Don't you realize these companies employ Canadians - why do you want to hurt your neighbours?" Yeah - not here for that noise.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 56 minutes ago

hopefully people will see through it and it’ll backfire and just reinforce people staying strong

[–] cheeseburger@lemmy.ca 55 points 8 hours ago (19 children)

Find a Lemmy app that has user tagging (I use Voyager, and previously Connect) and when you see these users make a note of each one with a red tag so they stand out when you're browsing.

You'll start to see the bastards turning up in all kinds of conversations as well as posting ridiculous shit. That's what I did with the Russian/American trolls/bots during the american election. Very enlightening to see in a political thread who the repeat offender shit-disturbers are so you can down vote, argue with, or report them instead of blocking them and allowing their infection to spread.

Tagging is handy for nice people as well; the community of people around you on Lemmy starts to look more familiar, smaller, and friendlier than you realize, and dick heads become easier to spot.

[–] GameGod@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Some kind of crowd-sourced tagging would be a cool anti-troll technique. A lot of less experienced websurfers struggle to spot "inauthentic behaviour" (bots, astroturfing, etc) so it could be beneficial. Reddit has a huge problem with sleeper accounts though, where they build up reputation with low-effort comments over years, then activate when a campaign needs them. The social media marketers seem to sometimes use the same techniques as the state-sponsored troll farms.

[–] overcooked_sap@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Every single social platform has tried to do this and failed. Once a platform reaches critical mass the bits, scammers, etc… move in and start exploiting any β€œhonour” mechanism that might exist.

Probably the best I’ve come across is ycombinator news but that’s pretty niche.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

There was a reddit add on that showed when a user had negative karma in certain subs, and you could edit the sub list and karma threshold on your own. Organic downvotes were something that was very difficult for bots and scammers (and nazis) to avoid

[–] nebajoth@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

I just switched to Voyager (from Jerboa, which did everything I thought I needed, until now), because of this post. I can absolutely see the value of tagging, and I am jumping in, starting with tagging everyone in this thread with a red-and-white "coureur des bois" tag.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coureur_des_bois

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I wish that there was a browser plug-in for Lemmy that would replicate the "Mass Tagger" that was available for Reddit.

[–] nebajoth@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

This does seem handy. Also why doesn't Voyager remember previously created tags and let you pick them quickly?

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

You can just block/report the bad actors too, if you don’t have the patience to deal with their bullshit. Out of sight, out of mind.

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[–] Magister@lemmy.world 99 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Canada gov should ban X, at least for pre-election

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 67 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

X should be banned full stop.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 3 hours ago

Facebook as well

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

That is a given, I have never seen it advertised in anyway up here though.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (3 children)

Government should be supporting democracy by providing publicly funded and managed spaces for debate and the release of information, especially government information. Abandoning these spaces to corporations is abdication of responsibility and compromises our democracy. It is not necessary to ban X, but it is not acceptable to require people to use X just to receive information from or communicate with our own public services.

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 31 points 9 hours ago

Good. Let these idiots be loud. Let every Canadian see what the Fuck Yeah 'Muricans think of us, so that the sting lasts as long as possible. We don't want to get lulled back into business as usual once Asshole Donny bits the bullet.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 42 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Unfortunately some of them are real people, I've had voice conversations with people who believe the bullshit line that "Canada and Mexico are taking advantage of us" that's coming out of these figureheads they blindly follow.

They have zero critical thinking abilities, and that means they can't be reasoned out of their position by showing them facts or asking them to prove their logic.

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

It's true - I can remember a year ago, maybe two? Back when he was still on Fox News Tucker Carlson was constantly on about how we were under a tyrannical dictatorship and how Americans should "free" us. This "not viable as a country" thing is just another attempt at justifying their aggression and it's just as hollow and stupid. The lies and fallacies just cycle through until something sticks, it's the goals that remain the same.

The truth is, they want us out of the way because our multiculturalism and socialism are threats to their siloed reality. We're too similar to them, too successful. We're a living repudiation of everything they believe, of all the lies they need to be true to justify their cruelty and bigotry.

We were never going to be allowed to live in peace, for no other reason than we are a constant reminder of the truth.

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[–] AlternateRoute@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Good thing as a Canadian I don't care what Americans THINK of us too much. They value their independence so do we.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but having the sentiment out there can still harm our own politics by giving rise to the people within Canada who support fascism (indirectly or directly). I don't know anyone who gives a fuck that Americans might not like us but I know at least a few who think that our government should be following in the footsteps of Americans, and given that I live in a fairly liberal city, I can only imagine it's much worse in some of the other areas.

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[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 44 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not so sure - yes don't feed the trolls but we can't just let them control the narrative. When Elon starts posting made-up polls on Twitter showing Canadians want to join the US, we need to have started the precedent already that that is a lie. I say, don't give up any space for free.

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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 16 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Luckily, Lemmy has a fairly effective way to deal with those. Don't block them, instead use the down arrow ⬇️ so the next buddy either doesn't see it, or sees the negative score as a warning. Unlike corporate for-profit social networks, Lemmy won't push those comments to the people that would get triggered most. Instead they'll fade into oblivion as quickly as the downvotes roll in.

[–] DarkWinterNights@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

LLMs will yell into the void. It's never been simpler.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago

Oh I can enrage americans? Awesome. It's going to be a good day. A not getting banned off reddit day.

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