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Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

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[–] tauren@lemm.ee 1 points 36 seconds ago

by ditching the Karma farmers

How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 9 points 1 hour ago

Give it another year or two and we'll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

[–] BeiYang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

I have a question though:

On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

It's one of two things

  1. Your app doesn't hide things that are marked as read. This is typically a setting you can choose.

  2. The same content is being posted to multiple communities or multiple instances (if you are watching global feed). This is not something that can be fixed I think.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 38 minutes ago

I've never had that experience with reddit. I see so much again

[–] g0ndii@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I would like some tips as well. Currently i’m using voyager, which has a ‚hide read‘ function (for posts you’ve opened) and other than that I swipe hide posts that i’ve „seen“ manually.

[–] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 1 points 1 minute ago

Jerboa has an option to mark posts as read automatically (when scrolling over it)

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

We have that here too. FlyingSquid comes to mind.

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I did count my likes from some top liked comments or posts of mine before. It kinda feels the same as karma, to me.

I'd say that people always find some way to get addicted to something, in whatever.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

We have plenty of astroturfing bots & powermods here. Once karma becomes a worthwhile metric for some to filter by, it’ll be abused & manipulated here, too.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago

The lack of karma is definitely a plus. Zionist trolls can downvote all they want, no one cares. In fact, there isn’t much of an incentive for any to invest in “downvote farms”.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

idk about you but psychologically i never chceckef my ksrma scote but still pay some attention to how an individual comment/submission is perceived. cuz i took the time to write it and it's cool if people like/understand it and it's "important" if they dont (at least important to my rat brains)

as a departure from this mentality, i will not edit the typos

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I liked my karma back on my old reddit account (before being banned from supporting Luigi), but that is because I had the account for 12 years and invested too much time into it.

So far I'm enjoying the laid back nature of lemmy. Hopefully there will be more engagement, maybe some UI updates too. But overall I'm liking the switch. The conversations and posts feel more real.

[–] roguesignal@lemm.ee 2 points 25 minutes ago

I got banned for my support of Luigi as well. 15 year account over there. Sometimes you gotta say goodbye to a friend.

[–] AnarchiaKapitany@lemm.ee 38 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Oh my sweet summer child. EVERY new service and SocMed site starts out like this. Fresh, fun, and working properly. Until the masses show up. That's when it goes to shit.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Eternal december.

I feel like white-list federation can fix it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 minutes ago (1 children)

You could do that if you wanted, but if we had these moderation things will probably be fine. It's also Eternal September

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 19 minutes ago

Damn. My brain is a bit slow today.

But can moderation tools really fix the problem of low quality content?

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[–] remon@ani.social 20 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"Karma" is just a counter of a user's recieved votes. It still exists on lemmy, most clients just choose to not display it.

Also where is this "value content" supposed to be?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Our value comes from our superior bean-based posting economy.

[–] Muehe@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Isn't Karma essentially just the delta between upvotes and downvotes you get with some sort of weighting thrown in?

Because you can very much get that delta on here, it just isn't visible in the default Lemmy interface. If you look at your account through an Mbin frontend for example you can see the "Reputation points" value in the sidebar: https://fedia.io/u/@wittycomputer@feddit.org

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 27 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

Lemmy still relies on upvotes for ranking the feed, so, farming them makes sense, it's just isolated per each post.

And I believe the issue might get worse as Lemmy grows. The reason Reddit came up with karma and all that is because the more people you have on your platform, the more baddies you have to account for.

For now, Lemmy is small enough for a basic interpersonal reputation to mostly just work, but as it grows, we need something else. Presumably, not karma.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Piefed implements an "attitude" system which tracks up vote ratio and a few other simple metrics mods can use to identify bad actors

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