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[–] Tillman@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fun fact, frogs won’t actually sit in the water, they always jump out when it gets too hot. Hilariously, humans are one of the few species of animals that will cook.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The test was around brain dead frogs to see if they'd jump out or boil to death... Not about functional frogs.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Humans confirmed worse than brain dead frogs

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

RIP. Good thing I'm a bot. Otherwise I'd be embarrassed af

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 100 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh my god, I thought this was an Onion meme.

2023 too, and not a cherry-picked misquote.

WTF.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, I asked a science teacher: "Why don't humans just evolve to adapt to the ozone layer being gone"

The teacher responded: "That's not how evolution works..." (and then explained it)

An UNDER-PAID TEACHER can understand that, are these journalists just kids who never paid attention in class?

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

I mean, evolution kind of might work around the ozone layer being gone. People just need to have children before the skin cancer kills them and that's totally possible. Might be good if the parents don't die when the kids are too little.

Evolution really doesn't care about your personal well-being and won't help you. It might "evolve" the human race to get children earlier in their teens, because everybody over 30 is dead from skin cancer and microplastics, but maybe the better solution is to use something different in hair spray and fridges.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yep. Very much so. Same for cold and high altitudes. Our bodies really are extra badass. Low oxygen- more red blood cells and hemoglobin concentration. Cold- blood thickens.

Fun fact: proffesional distance bikers and runners will often go train for several weeks before a race in high altitudes as a means to increase red blood cell counts without "doping". All the benefits of cheating but without technically cheating.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just so we're on the same page, I wasn't unsure whether it is possible to acclimatise one's body to different temperatures but whether this was something someone actually had the gall to write about as a "climate solution".

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 days ago

Oh. I got ya. Lol

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, occasionally, athletes just fucking drop dead while doing so. And they’re the healthiest among us.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Autopsies always find that they have defective hearts or heart valves if it isn't an aneurysm. Healthy athletes never really drop dead without a pre existing cause.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

or shitloads of drugs

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

It's like shooting yourself with smaller bullets to build up a resistance to higher calibers

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The craziest thing is this (real) article doesn't address things like wet bulbs which can be fatal, and no amount of heat tolerance will change that.

So not only is it proof The Washington Post is class traitor garbage, but also that their journalism isn't even good

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago

Heat tolerance will also not help against the increases in storms, floods and wildfires that are directly caused by the heat increases.

Summer being 110°F is not even in the top 10 of why climate change is bad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

no amount of heat tolerance will change that.

Conservatives: "Climate change will be fine. Actually all this extra heat and carbon in the air will be good for the plants. You'll see."

Also Conservatives: "MAKE MORE BABIES! ONLY THE FITTEST WILL SURVIVE!"

Also Also Conservatives: "We need to conquer Canada and Greenland for... uh... reasons."

[–] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

*Extreme WBT's

A wet bulb thermometer measures wet bulb temperature (WBT), which is a metric that always exists and can always be measured. It only gets bad when the WBT reaches an extreme value, as is the case for basically all environmental metrics. Saying that wet bulb temperature is lethal is like saying that temperature is lethal. Look out for temperature! I'm sorry for the rant so I'll try to keep this short, but "wet bulb" by itself in this context is an inane shorthand that lacks all the significant words and muddles the meaning of those words that are in it. Scientists talk about Extreme WBT events, because that's what they are. A less of a mouthful would be nice for science communication, but I don't want it to come at the expense of words losing meaning like that.

Heatwave is a nice and descriptive word for one type of an extreme temperature event. Cold snap is another one. I'm glad neither is called "temperature event" because that would be dumb.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem with your rant is that the "extreme" label is applied by researchers in temperate climates and could very easily, and almost certainly will be thanks to Trump, be replaced by "tropical"

[–] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An extreme value is always only extreme in relation to some baseline. For temperatures it's usually a value that departs far from the local average. With WBT it can also mean values that approach the limit of what the human physiology can handle, a value that is quite universal due to us all being of the same species. The body cannot adapt beyond the limits set by thermodynamics.

Tropical and extreme aren't mutually exclusive. +30°C in Antarctica would be both tropical and extreme. Both are used where applicable. A temperature can also be extreme without being tropical. No matter what Trump thinks, he doesn't have the power to redefine (let alone erase) words.

The wet bulb temp. in a proper sauna should get quite high, I don't have exact numbers but above 70°C or so (dry temp. 90°C, relative humidity 50% would translate to a WBT of 74°C). In most contexts that would be extreme, but not here.

[–] ashenone@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let's see if these experts can build up a tolerance to acute lead poisoning

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Or, more topically, exposure to raw sewage.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna take a wild guess that the "experts" have air-conditioned homes and workplaces.

Make them live without AC for the entire next summer and let's see if their "expert" opinion changes.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They were asked these questions by journalists and they answered. Don't blame scientists for idiot media people.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scientists can be absolutely the biggest idiots. I worked maintenance in a laboratory and sometimes I was impressed somebody who can genotype plankton could also tie their own shoes.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Sure, I never claimed the opposite :) I just think in this case, the one to blame is whoever came up with the idea for this article, not the people who were asked questions.

[–] exu@feditown.com 12 points 2 days ago
[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I used to go on 1-2 hour walks every day, the heat never felt less bad.

[–] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's cause it keeps getting hotter

excuse me then why does it snow

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

True? Yes, to a point. Climate solution? No.

Step one: undergo a lobotomy

[–] underrate170@kbin.earth 3 points 2 days ago

Truly top tier post

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never would have thought Bezos was a Stalinist…

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd really like to know what in this image relates to Stalin.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was thinking they don't remember what Lysenkoism is, but do remember Stalin was involved somewhere.

Then they started talking about classical conditioning

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The old Soviet system was enthralled with classic conditioning, and Stalin tended to use it to shape society, although Lenin was more appreciative of Pavlov. 1984 is Orwell’s critique of Stalinism. It seems Bezos didn’t object to a classic conditioning editorial and it shows in his treatment of Amazon workers.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, I'd really like to know what this image has to do with classical conditioning then.

This pathway from A to B is so full of twists and turns, I never know what's going to come next.

[–] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A conditioned non-response as a response? The frog that’s gradually boiled so as not to notice its impending fate?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

It's not a trained response. The story goes that frogs won't jump out of a pot of water as long as the heat is raised gradually. There's no classical conditioning involved at all (and the connection of "classical conditioning is Stalinist" is also quite a leap).

As an aside, I've heard that story isn't actually true, but it makes for a decent metaphor. There are other examples of similar things in nature, like weasels will hunt rabbits by doing a "dance" full of confusing motions all over the place as they gradually inch closer to the rabbit, avoiding the rabbit's flight of flight response.