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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 118 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Canada should be investing in healthcare and science, taking advantage of the current opportunity to poach world-class talent from the USA. And don't vote Conservative because they'll do the opposite.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I can’t agree with your comment more. It’s time for Canada to take a stand and invite in all the smartest people from the US to help us bolster our economy and better the country.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Problem with that is we gotta offer a higher salary, which we can't afford right now. Now with how medicare is being sabotaged by conservative provincial governments.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

For many of them, just coming to Canada is worth making a few bucks less.

[–] root@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

I mean, mental health is worth something. I’d be willing to take a pay cut.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not living under fascism and the threat of going to prison for doing your job is worth a pay cut for some. That said, we shouldn't underpay medical professionals.

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If they stay in the US for the money, they deserve to stay there and see what happens.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Call it 'Projet Trombone' .

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is tech support in demand? πŸ˜…

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

If we get all the smart people, most everything will be in demand.

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[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Same situation, here in Europe - the most beneficial situation would be to have a bigger partnership between the EU and Canada! Only then, we could face Trump, Putin, and other dictators.

[–] MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Trudeau did a great job of doing this the first time around. We got some big names in Chemistry back across the border. Thanks Trump lol

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Should've done it 8 years back when the orange fuckwad was elected for the first time. Incredible miss by Canada.

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[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nothing changed during Trump's first presidency disaster and nothing has changed after the pandemic. It won't happen and this is fucking sad.

Best we csn do is piss away money on mega corpos thst won't do jackshit.

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

From what little I know, I believe that wait times for Canadian family physicians suck because they move to the US for better pay. So this is rebalancing the scales

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Get the government in the business of building homes. Stop relying on the private sector, this shit needs to be done ASAP. Then reach our to American talent!

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He writes under a pseudonym due to fear of further retribution from members of U.S. medical leadership and U.S. government officials.

What a sad state

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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 week ago

Pharmaceutical tech and bio students are getting offers rescinded to universities because of the US grant cuts.

We have the chance to eat the US’s lunch for the next decade of health tech right now.

[–] Bublboi@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome. Shouldn’t be hard to get in if you have credentials.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

I've got my ticket in, just waiting for bureaucracy at this point :)

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yay! But also consider coming to the EU; we are also in need of good doctors!

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is already a brain drain of doctors from the south to the north and west of Europe. So so many Greeks for example.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Fair enough, but I am from Portugal, so I do feel the issue.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ironic commenting this from Lemmy.ca

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A fine point, but Lemmy.ca is geared towards Canadians, not exclusive to them.

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Cmon home! We need ya!

[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm a current American bio student planning to go into healthcare, can confirm I'm planning to go to grad school abroad to hopefully escape the US. I'm not planning to go to Canada though, I'm planning to go to Australia. I decided not to look into Canada after hearing of it's rising far-right and anti-immigrant sentiment. If Canada wants US brain drain Canadians would have to be willing to accept American immigrants, even with how poorly many Canadians view Americans right now

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I decided not to look into Canada after hearing of it's rising far-right and anti-immigrant sentiment.

Is this not happening everywhere?

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[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Australia has the same problems as Canada

[–] OneTwoThree@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

And it's a problem there too. Both Australia and Canada need to cool it with the anti-immigrant scapegoating unless they want to end up like America. Ultimately the main reason I chose Australia over Canada was due to it's further distance from the US making it less likely to get embridled in geopolitical conflicts with the US, like Canada already is with these tariff wars

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[–] Routhinator@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

Only took 40 years to reverse brain drain

[–] Burghler@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

It's been so ass these last few years to get proper care. Glad to hear it

American here. Apparently those doctors aren't fleeing to my local clinic in Seattle. Routine appointments are scheduled months out. Last August I had a weird little heart thing where paramedics showed up and checked me out. They recommended taking a cardio stress test, which I couldn't get until October, and discussing the results with the actual doctor was in fucking December. Because we have the Finest Healthcare System In The Worldβ„’ (sunbeams, angels singing). Of course for really urgent matters you can get very immediate attention via ambulance and the Emergency Room, and then you owe them your house. Cuz Freedom!

Sorry if this is off-topic, but I can't be the only one who read the title as "pegging canada," right?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

So maybe all the Canadian-trained doctors can come back?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

A doctor I worked with who was born in Canada but had been working in the US decided to move back to Canada and work with us, I guess he and his family wanted to get out of the states. Well, his family hated it here, I guess just not used to our way of life, and he had lots of criticism of how OHIP does not fund things (thanks Doug the drug dealer) and bitched all the time, and so last summer he went and secretly got a new job, his family moved back to the US ahead of him, and he hung out here for the fall and announced on October 31st that he was quitting and going back to the states. I didn't see him until the day after the election and I asked him where he was moving to, and he told me, but he said now he didn't know because of the election. Well, he moved after all, I mean his family was already there, but now that the US pulled 880 billion out of Medicare which is all of Medicare alone and a lot of people lost their jobs and therefore their insurance, and funding is being pulled out of science and medicine in other places, I don't think he'll have a good time of it. He was pretty arrogant about how badly he thought we did things, and while I agree that the conservative Ontario government sucks the rigid cock of Satan, it's not like that!

However OHIP really needs to pay many doctors more. Family doctors deserve a huge raise, and many subspecialties are poorly paid for the amount of education and work they require. For example, MS neurologists and movement disorders neurologists are paid very poorly and those patients require a LOT of work.

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