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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Fucking click bait garbage article, but thankfully the article has a tldr at the top that basically contradicts the headline and saves you minutes of time to realize you've been baited;

TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered Rewrite tool.

Better headline: Microsoft forces you to pay to suffer through using their AI tool that no one asked for, application otherwise unchanged.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 57 seconds ago

I dint think it's ragebait/clickbait. I think it's really problematic that just a simple text editor get this bad by enshittification.

[–] RedIce25@lemmy.world 35 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] actaastron@reddthat.com 5 points 1 hour ago

I usually use my work laptop for personal bits and bobs which is Ubuntu but I turned on my personal Microsoft PC recently to do some stuff and couldn't believe all the pop-ups and noise! I promptly moved all my data onto a external drive and did a fresh install of Ubuntu.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 21 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern / add some useful functions.

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 hour ago (2 children)
[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Can't wait for them to remove Calculator, since you can ask AI to calculate stuff, you know.

[–] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Add it to OneNote then?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah but no one uses wordpad. They put it in notepad for the exact reason you're saying: because people use it.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

If they made it more useful, people would use it. Making support for modern formats, maybe even Markdown could have been added and it would already be 5x more useful. Also add another set of basic features like tables, some advanced formatting to the mix as well.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 48 minutes ago

isn't the paywall for notepad buying windows and a computer?

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 48 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So... who wants to bet that the new version of Notepad is not constantly scraping anything you type into it and feeding it into the AI, regardless of whether you're paying for this feature or not?

[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 20 points 3 hours ago

Tbf, they already control the os itself. They already have access to all of the keystrokes. Implementing it just in notepad feels like a rube goldbergy way of scraping user data.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Notepad++ on windows is kind of the GOAT IMO.

[–] nerdschleife@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

The search and replace UX is 10 years behind. The sole reason I use sublime text instead

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

They said UI, so I don't think they meant features. But honestly I've never been unhappy with their UI, aside from one day with multiple replaces across a few files where the autofill from clipboard kept deleting the expression I wanted to be in there as I navigated through what I needed to do.

But that was fine, anyway, it got through it and I'm just happy with the "apply to all open documents" setting. Saved me at least an hour.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The regex engine was not full featured last time I tried. Done know which implementation they use, but it was lacking basic features like end of line matching (if I remember correctly).

[–] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago

I'm a happy sublime user myself but the search UI is one thing I particularly don't like about it.

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[–] yggdar@lemmy.world 149 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The title is quite sensational compared to the content. They only added an AI Rewrite feature for notepad that requires a Microsoft 365 subscription. Considering the cost of AI, and the fact that it will very probably run in the cloud, it is very reasonable that it isn't free. Everything else about notepad remains free / included with the price you paid for the OS.

[–] Noedel@lemmy.world 105 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I agree, but the idea of adding AI to notepad is quite insane in its own right

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Adding layers to paint was what surprised me

[–] DemonVisual@lemm.ee 13 points 4 hours ago

That's actually very nice, one of the few Microsoft programs that I genuinely miss - layers are a quality of life feature that is actually really nice to have 👍

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[–] MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 70 points 7 hours ago (20 children)

Fine. Notepad++ is better anyway

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

I prefer Sublime

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[–] nadram@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Ragebait. Notepad is still free. If you want to use Rewrite, then you pay for that.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I can understand separating a new paid-only feature, especially if you don't much need that part. The new features are reportedly accessible from the GUI of Notepad so I wouldn't blame anyone else who thought "NOTEPAD" asked them to sign up and pay a subscription to use "NOTEPAD" features.

I used to rage when reading bad changes to Windows, even after I'd stopped using it. Now I just feel bad that my friends are still in that a bad relationship with their computer.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 23 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

[obligatory linux boast] I really prefer Kate to Notepad because KDE makes superior, non AI encrusted software that actually works for it's users. And it's FREE!

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

A new user looking through their start menu and seeing "Kate" will have no idea it's a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

Okular, Dolphin, Cantata... ask someone who's never tried Plasma before what those programs do and I'd wager you'd get an incorrect answer for each one.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There is actually an option to do that iirc. You can have it show entry descriptions.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Indeed. That's what I do on my Plasma system, it's a good option.

But a new user or someone who isn't technical won't see that, they don't go digging through settings in each app, they just use the defaults.

I guess a solid compromise would be to enable this by default, and anybody who doesn't like that short descriptor can disable it.

But IMO nothing will beat the no-nonsense straightforwardness of calling OS apps immediately intuitive names. This is something I believe Gnome gets right. Go onto their GitHub and their file manager is called Nautilus, but on your system it will default to being called "Files", because they know everyone will understand what "Files" is but a lot of people would ask "Wtf is Nautilus??", same goes for other apps, e.g. "Loupe" appearing as "Image Viewer".

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam, imo.

Steam isn't preinstalled on your PC, it's not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, so you'd only do it once you already know what it is.

Third party apps kinda need unique names and branding like that to distinguish themselves.

A newbie won't know what "Kate" or "Okular" do. They might know what "Dolphin" does because it has a folder as the app icon (although users of screen readers won't see that). They will probably know what "Notepad" or "Text Editor" does, though.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 16 minutes ago

Kate isn't a part of the OS, though... the text editor that is a part of the OS is called "vi".

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 5 points 4 hours ago

personally i find kate struggles with large files. KWrite is a better analog to notepad IMO

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago

the news is more that they are trying to shoehorn AI in effing Notepad to make sure even those little snippets of text can be used for training

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