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[–] Zier@fedia.io 27 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

[obligatory linux boast] I really prefer Kate to Notepad because KDE makes superior, non AI encrusted software that actually works for it's users. And it's FREE!

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 8 hours ago

personally i find kate struggles with large files. KWrite is a better analog to notepad IMO

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

A new user looking through their start menu and seeing "Kate" will have no idea it's a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

Okular, Dolphin, Cantata... ask someone who's never tried Plasma before what those programs do and I'd wager you'd get an incorrect answer for each one.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

There is actually an option to do that iirc. You can have it show entry descriptions.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Indeed. That's what I do on my Plasma system, it's a good option.

But a new user or someone who isn't technical won't see that, they don't go digging through settings in each app, they just use the defaults.

I guess a solid compromise would be to enable this by default, and anybody who doesn't like that short descriptor can disable it.

But IMO nothing will beat the no-nonsense straightforwardness of calling OS apps immediately intuitive names. This is something I believe Gnome gets right. Go onto their GitHub and their file manager is called Nautilus, but on your system it will default to being called "Files", because they know everyone will understand what "Files" is but a lot of people would ask "Wtf is Nautilus??", same goes for other apps, e.g. "Loupe" appearing as "Image Viewer".

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam, imo.

Steam isn't preinstalled on your PC, it's not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, so you'd only do it once you already know what it is.

Third party apps kinda need unique names and branding like that to distinguish themselves.

A newbie won't know what "Kate" or "Okular" do. They might know what "Dolphin" does because it has a folder as the app icon (although users of screen readers won't see that). They will probably know what "Notepad" or "Text Editor" does, though.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

Kate isn't a part of the OS, though... the text editor that is a part of the OS is called "vi".

[–] grimaferve@fedia.io 10 points 9 hours ago

Even though it's typically associated with KDE and Linux, it's also available on Windows. Good for people who haven't made up their mind yet. It's a great text editor with a feature-set similar to other advanced notepads.

I'll be real though, if I hadn't jumped ship 3 years ago, I'd be cutting my losses with Windows here.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] skaffi@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

Me too! So much so that I have sworn to name my first secretary Kate.

[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] johsny@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

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