Elon Musk is a foreigner that is directly causing our current problems.
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The US has been the most evil country on earth long before musk arrived.
No argument there.
I would argue that the British Empire and Belgium were pretty fucking evil long before the US came into existence.
After WW2 most of the worlds imperialism, death and destruction and theft has shifted. The main perpetrator went from being Europe to the US. With Europe remaining complicit of course.
That's a fair point. The US empire expanded tremendously after all the war profiteering from WW2, which allowed for the evil that we see today.
Elon Musk is a foreigner
No, he's an American citizen. Or are American liberals full 'blood and soil' now?
Rightwingers don't usually care about whether immigrants have citizenship or not.
Yeah, including right wing blueMAGA liberals
Wym "now"? Lmao
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It’s those fucking illegals who came over on the mayflower that caused this
had the native american's been smart enough to build a wall across the ocean... none of this mess would have happened.
Lots of populist European parties are doing the same and are actually gaining votes by blaming everything on the immigrants.
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DAMN YOU PUTIN
I frequent the “…thanks a lot Obama.”
Thanks Obama
It's not like most european countries are in a good position to justifiably point fingers here ...
The author Domenico Losurdo uses the term mutual demystification a lot, especially in Liberalism - a counter history. When two parties accuse each other of being hypocrites, it often ends up showing that they both are.
I'd like to point out that I'm european, not american - this is the opposite of calling each other hypocrites.
When people are not brain dead by media, both in the US and EU we know all of our problems comes from our own government and fat CEOs.
Foreigners are just one of the many scapegoats they put the blame on.
What it reminds me of is Greeks and then Romans calling them barbarian, from barbar meaning foreigners. This isn't new...
The problem always was power and the unfit nature of human beings to possess it.
I wouldn't expect anyone to deny the existence of corruption or abuse of power, but I think the corrupting influence of power is often used to justify in retrospect the acts of people put into power to do exactly that. It might sound pedantic to say that CEOs or state officials aren't really "corrupt", because they rarely ever intend to represent the interests of the workforce or population, but really it's a total inversion of causality. They don't "betray" because they got in power, they got in power to "betray".
On an interesting sidenote, it also goes against the common misconception that any form of authority ultimately leads to corruption, since those same CEOs and officials seem to stay pretty loyal.
Exact, and I believe most forms of power incentives bad actions and the worse individual to take it.
Wich would entail it comes from our nature, dictating the properties of power.
Good actions done by CEOs or the ones being loyal seems to me is coming from another facet of us.
Our economy is organized around exploitation, I understand the point that someone in power might use this power for their own good if unchecked, but in an economy of exploitation like ours, power is organized around said exploitation. The worst of people go to the top not because bad people inherently do (or as you say, because power incentivizes bad action) but because this system is structured around exploitation, being ruthless and clamping down as hard as possible on those below you.
I don't believe that power generally incentivizes bad action. Outside of the structure of a company or a capitalist state, it's merely a factor to account for, like any other conflict or human element (and is usually handled fairly expeditiously). In my experience in non profit organizations, usual "human issues" are of course presents, but corruption and power abuse only ever rear their heads when the rubber hit the profit road.
This confusion also isn't a mistake, it's a misdirection, perpetually maintained to depict the constant corruption of states and companies worldwide as a mere "unfortunate reality" of human organization, while minimizing scrutiny of the structures this corruption exists in. When Trump, Elon and friends are waging a crusade against corruption, you would think this misdirection is at its absolute stretching limit, but somehow it still holds strong even (and especially) in those critical of them.
Sorry for stupidly long reply, in a word, I think we shouldn't mistake "profit incentive", for "power incentive".
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One in particular from. South Africa
Mfw the country is founded by foreigners who didn’t like the other foreigners
It's also a problem in europe
Edit: people blaming immigrants, that is, not immigration itself
and blaming communism, despite the fact that there's no communism to be found in Europe
To be fair, anything, literally anything, that Nigel Farage says, can and should be dismissed as nonsense. If he would say the sky is blue, dismiss it. If you want to know the color of the sky, you can find a better source of information.
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They don't even try.
The only wrong part of this meme is the implication that burgers would even try to not blame foreign meddling.
I’ll start. Go home white people! Go back to where you came from!
I'd love to live in Denmark, that's where most of my heritage comes from.
Maybe I should go to Poland. That's the largest contiguous plurality of my background...
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No you don't understand, it wasn't 80 years of fascist power consolidation and continual capitalist cannibalization since the 70s, It is all Putin manipulating social media causing the material conditions in the Global North. One thing is for sure, no one wrote a book in the nineteenth century describing this exactly.
You don't understand, the U.S. was sold to Russia in 2016, then it was reclaimed and thanklessly saved by our harm-reduction, lesser-evilism enjoyer (very wholesome), then it was hopelessly sold back again to Russia just recently..
Capitalism and First-past-the-post voting.
Capitalists hate competition.
It’s not necessarily foreigners, but rather billionaires that are the problem. They bought off and corrupted government officials long ago, and directed them to perform heinous acts to line their pockets further. The rich have got to be stopped in order for things to get better. I’d prefer to simply tax them out of existence, but there are other means available…
The US was founded on slavery and genocide / conquest of hundreds of indigenous nations. It's rotten to the core.
Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England. This is a human problem, not a national one.
George washington, franklin, jefferson, madison, all the founders were slave-owning colonizers who explicitly modelled their country after ancient Rome.
It's not a human problem, these were specifically evil people who did not share the same values as the people they murdered and enslaved.
Most countries were not founded in this way.
Yeah, and many of those founders were rich businessmen who didn’t want to pay taxes to the king of England.
They were pissy that the king made it illegal to expand westward and exterminate all of the indigenous people. They were all "no, actually, the British Empire isn't evil enough. Let's make an even bigger and eviller empire than the [at the time] most evil empire on Earth."
This is a human problem, not a national one.
It is a national and class problem, not a human one. Human nature is a bs concept invented to sell the status quo.
It's not like Musk was elected.
He looks like he's taking a shit
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