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It doesn't have to be like this, America. Not only is tipping not expected in Australia, but when the "Choose tip" screen comes up on US made software, all the servers I've ever had skip straight through it and choose zero.
Servers deserve to be paid fairly.
I award you no tips, and may God have mercy on your soul!
This is why I have stopped dining out, if the business demands excess to then pay staff and without tips staff go unpaid then what is it I am supporting.
Gonna call “likely fake ragebait” on this
The fact you have to say "likely" rather than "outright bullshit" says everything. As an european If america didn't exist I'd know this image is a joke.
I don’t have proof that this literally never happened so I can’t say it with 100% certainty. That’s all there is here
I also can't believe it is real, but I wouldn't discount it as being fake. Similar case below:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/25/business/alaskan-restaurants-100-tip-option-appalls-vacationer/
That is one example of it occurring, yes, but similarities with the image presented here and your source end at the 100% tip. Everything else has been modded to bait that rage.
Your link shows an entirely different tip screen.
It is different, but close enough that I won't be surprised this is real.
That was followed by an option of 30%, described as “Great;” 50%, rated as “Wow!” and finally 100%, which the tip screen noted was for the “Best Service Ever!” per the outlet
This would get an immediate Custom -> 0% from me the moment I see it.
Fucking "soso" for a 20% tip the hell
If this is in a restaurant after I've eaten, it would get 0% and I'd never go there again.
If this is presented to me somewhere you pay before consuming your food/purchase, I'm leaving without paying.
Man I'd leave a 1% tip just in case someone sees it and realizes that it was on purpose because I'm annoyed with the UX
Also, holy hell, am I glad to live in a country that doesn't do tipping*. It was a bit weird going to the US and not knowing when to tip and when not to, but I doubt I'll be revisiting y'all in the next 4 years anyway :(
*At restaurants with table service, it's considered polite, but not necessary, to tip, if you enjoyed the experience.
As a dev I would try negative value in the custom field.
There's no 20 it's 30%!! Insane.
They know there's soft, weak people like me that find it painful because the guy in front of you can see it. I mean, I'm a good principled person and I've still done it, but I felt like trash in the process.
I guess it was just a matter of time before other classes than the bottom one figured out aggressive panhandling.
Custom 0%
It ain't my job to pay your employees salaries
Maybe it's your job to avoid patronizing places that don't pay their employees enough though?
I absolutely will pick the no-tips place given a choice, but I take issue with that wording. Basically every business pays as little as possible, by design.
Given a choice? There’s always a choice. You’re just leaving yourself a convenient back door to not tip while benefitting from tipping culture.
I would happily pay more for my meal if it meant I didn't have to tip. The benefit we get from not tipping is marginal compared to the benefit restaurant owners get by not paying living wage. Not to mention it's added stress to the actual people doing the work because they don't even get the guarantee of a decent paycheck.
And there is a choice, you chose to perpetuate the system that grossly exploits the laborer, I choose to have minimal participation in such a system. Want to take a guess which of the two actually has a chance to fix the system?
…what? I’m saying they can always help it, they can always not go somewhere that expects tips. But if you would like to go somewhere that expects tips, you better fucking tip. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Don’t want to support that system? Don’t participate in it at all. Don’t just not participate in the part that costs you money. I don’t get why you’re lecturing me as if I defend tipping as a system.
But you are defending the system. You're literally saying if you end up in a place that expects tipping then you should tip. What if you're going out with a group and that group decides to go somewhere that expects tipping? Are you supposed to remove yourself from the group so you wouldn't go into a place like that?
You can't take this black and white stance where if you end up participating in this system you also have to perpetuate that system. Making the customer feel like they're responsible for the livelihood of the staff is how this tipping culture is kept alive and that is exactly what you're doing right now. You're trying to claim we are responsible for their livelihood simply because we stepped into the restaurant and ate.
Show me exactly where I defended the system. Show me a single line.
I said if you don’t want tipping to continue, you can’t support restaurants that tip. If you go to a restaurant that expects tips and you don’t tip, you are keeping them in business while screwing over the person working. It is the worst of all worlds. In that scenario you are perpetuating the system by participating in it. It’s a choice.
Show me exactly where I defended the system. Show me a single line.
You’re just leaving yourself a convenient back door to not tip while benefitting from tipping culture.
Trying to guilt people into tipping
But if you would like to go somewhere that expects tips, you better fucking tip
Literally telling people to tip.
If you go to a restaurant that expects tips and you don’t tip, you are keeping them in business while screwing over the person working.
If nobody tipped at those restaurants nobody would work at those restaurants and those restaurants would have to either start paying livable wage or go out of business.
I said if you don’t want tipping to continue, you can’t support restaurants that tip.
And I agree. I avoid going to such restaurants if given a chance. But if circumstances require going to such a restaurant do you really think tipping at that restaurant is less beneficial to the restaurant than not tipping?
In that scenario you are perpetuating the system by participating in it. It’s a choice.
If circumstances force me to participate then I should go all the way? Is that what you're saying? So if a vegan orders a plate that happens to have meat in it then the vegan should eat that meat? After-all they've already participated by ordering something with meat.
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I said “if” several times. The point is if you don’t want to tip or support tipping culture, don’t go somewhere that expects tips. So I’m saying “do not go somewhere that expects tips,” because I am against tipping as a system. I have been clear this entire time. I am not guilting people into tipping, I’m saying do not go somewhere where you’re supposed to tip and not tip or you’re even worse than the problem. If you do, you need to tip. But don’t go if you care about ending tipping culture.
I know you understand exactly what I am saying. Why are you so fragrantly misrepresenting me? Stop lying.
"If you don't want to support tipping culture, don't go somewhere that expects tips. But if you do happen to go somewhere that expects tips (regardless of how you end up going there) you absolutely must support tipping culture".
Now let me take your point into absurdity.
"If you don't want to support gun violence you shouldn't own a gun. But if you happen to own a gun you should do a mass shooting."
That's how your argument comes across to me. I have no issue with the first part of your argument, I do that. But I have an issue with the second part because that is defending tipping culture.
Stop lying and misrepresenting me. I am explicitly against tipping culture. Can you not read? Do I need to break this down further? Or can you stop with this disingenuous bullshit?
Which part of that statement was lying or misrepresenting? They're your words. The first part.
I’m saying “do not go somewhere that expects tips,”
And the second part.
I’m saying do not go somewhere where you’re supposed to tip and not tip or you’re even worse than the problem. If you do, you need to tip.
What are you not getting?
If you go somewhere that expects tips and don’t tip, you are still feeding the machine. You are still supporting the establishment. They have lost zero dollars because of you. The only person you screwed over is the person working there. So the only moral thing to do if you insist on going to a place that expects tips is to still tip. Otherwise you’re just a piece of shit.
You cannot say “I am against tipping culture“ simply because you refuse to tip. You cannot be a patron at these establishments. Full Stop. What do you not fucking get? Don’t support these places. Do not go there. Going there and refusing to tip is only hurting workers while still giving the business money.
I am not explaining this again. Stop telling me what I think. I am explicitly telling you. Stop lying. Stop misrepresenting me.
What are you not getting? Everything you've just brought up are things I've already covered. I'm done talking to a wall. Either read what I've said or stfu.
No, it's not, however as a near-minimum wage worker myself, it is also not my job to cover a massive corporation's lack of proper budgeting...
30% is "soso" but a 100% is only "Thank You"? In this case the 100% should be "Walk over to the other side of the register so the boss can blow You".
I don't mind paying for the convenience. I tip well. I do wish we lived in a country where living wages were a thing. But we don't. We're a giant slave colony owned by like 5 megacorps.
My question here is, how much was the bill? 5 or $600?
95, lol, the percentages are there on the screen
Yep. Sure is. Hopefully that makes my blonde moment quota for a few days.
This would be an automatic "custom" > 0% for me. Sorry, not sorry.
The moment they ask for a tip they are not getting anything nor a repeat customer.
Presenting the possibility to tip on the screen is ok, I think. The tone (and from my European perspective the percentages) is, what I find weird.
If you can't afford living wages for your staff so they're not dependant on tips, your store shouldn't be open.
Everyone working a job should be making a living wage. "Oh, but then the price of my McDonald's cheeseburger will skyrocket!!" Fucking good. If it's not economical to produce a product without abusing people, that product shouldn't exist. Period. I will die on this hill.