Started to participate in discussion more and pleasantly surprised actual conversations happen and the comment section is not flooded with generic bot shit within minutes.
this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2024
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When I first came here, I was so jaded, with the expectation that every account was a bot or an asshole. Seeing the actual conversation among humans has been nice.
Absolutely. The jadedness coming off of reddit is real. Took me half a year to slowly start participating
Yeah, that's something I really like about Lemmy. You can have actual conversations. On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people. You couldn't just talk with one person.
I don't mind other people joining in, but reddit makes it impossible to do 1-on-1.
On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people.
Lemmy really does give the feel of "early reddit" where it was small enough for real communities, where you would recognize regulars and see them in multiple subs.
Agreed. Oftentimes I describe Lemmy as "reddit back in the day" whenever someone asks me wtf is Lemmy.
In my view, Lemmy ecospace became a lot more dark. People are snarkier, less prone to engage in polite conversation and divergent opinions get hounded.
I also sense an increased tendency for doom and gloom. Nihilism is on the rise, as well.
Would you say the doom and gloom is Lemmy specific, or more of a global thing, given the state of life ATM?
I'm only on Lemmy. Can't speak for other places. On my day to day life, people are concerned with living their lives.
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It's definitely not just a Lemmy thing just any site that grows a user base.
I kind off think of it like the difference between talking to random people at a local hobby space vs a national convention. Sure you're gonna still find people with shared interests but you got more people coming in with an agenda or chip on their shoulder, Or just general trolls who target larger groups because it's more people to get a rise out of.
But you'd have to consult some sociologist or someone for a in-depth factual answer, I've just been on a lot of random sites/forums over the years.
Honestly Lemmy has handled it's growth a lot better than most places online I've seen. I'd say people on here are pretty raw but not actively spiteful (mostly), which I very much vibe with.
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less prone to engage in polite conversation
What the fuck did you just say to me, you little shit lemming? I'll have you know that I graduated top of my class in online forum debates...
/jk
Yeah, yeah, yeah... and Happy New Year!
That's interesting because for me it's the opposite, or maybe I just don't notice it anymore. But when I first joined people were almost always hostile to one another. I feel like that's not the case anymore.
Among American users, this probably has a lot to do with the recent election.
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A lot more comments like reddit that are the quick (very tired) zingers. I was happy to get away from that but I'm sort of thinking of putting lemmy down if it gets worse.
I don't need your "this." Or "broken arms" or "that's insulting to trash" etc.
It's beyond tired. But it gets up voted and can dominate the comments section. I appreciate threads like this one that promote actual discussion.
I feel that, too, but also...
There's a large number of news articles that it feels literally pointless to respond to with anything other than jokey derision because it feels like we've been talking to people about those issues for two decades (or more for some of us) and no one listened.
So, with a lot of it... what is there even to talk about anymore and instead crack jokes to try to feel less dead inside?
I fully agree, but at the same time find myself making jokey throwaway comments on the millionth thread about "turns out Trump was lying about his campaign promises!!!!" as if anyone with a fucking brain couldn't figure that out since at least 2015. It just feels pointless to engage with beyond comedy when the media continues to sanewash that guy.
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Some or most of the people upvoting this stuff is just part of the lucky 10,000
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Lemmy has become my main social media outlet. For better or worse, Lemmy's just my kind of place. I'm off of all mainstream social media except LinkedIn, which I barely use, but keep around for work related reasons.
I do still peruse Reddit, mainly for TV shows and niche subjects I can't find here. But I haven't logged in or posted since the first major exodus over the API pricing, and have no plans of returning.
I do post on Mastodon from time to time, but the format is just too geared towards short form content, and ultimately just isn't my cup of tea.
So yeah. I'm generally happy to be here with you all shooting the shit about politics, Linux, etc. Long live Lemmy!
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Lemmy is teaching me things by accident.
Most recently; I've started learning media literacy and now I can see all the same manufactured consent and narrative shaping that exists in legacy media and social media like Facebook and reddit; but in .world and lemmee too
I will always link Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of "Brainwashing" when this subject comes up, haha.
I wish the .worlders & lemmee's would open up a book to learn this for themselves.
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Itβs actually had content for me now
It's become clear that Lemmy is not about to take off. For most users, it's probably a fine Reddit clone, but it's not about to replace the big R.
I'm sure that will change in 2025. π§
I suppliment Lemmy with Imgur. That said, Imgur also forces you to use their offical app, and it also sells your data to 3rd parties, like most apps. But it's not nearly as shit as the offical reddit app, and you can always block the trackers with the DuckDuckGo app.
I still don't have a replacement for niche subreddits, though. So I only visit them on the desktop now to minimize that time on the site, and so I can use old.reddit.com.
I dream of the day when I can finally ditch both for good and just use Lemmy.
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Starting to see different people reposting stuff on similar communities, which reminds me a lot of that other site. Not a huge fan.
I've also started noticing people downvoting instead of engaging when they disagree with something as well, which is frustrating.
Hey dude, I just wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don't see upvotes or downvotes.
Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn't even show you your total upvotes (karma... whatever it's called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.
So why don't you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.
I know I have.
(Lemmy is rad as fuck)
As for the reposting content, are you referring to cross posting? I've noticed people doing it to my posts.
I think it's a good thing as maybe some people have lemmy.ml defederated and I still want people who use lemmy to have content so they stay and grow the federation.
Again, the points are made up and the updoots don't matter. Peace.
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More content and more comments. I basically only use mastodon and lemmy for my memes nowadays and as general social media.
My participation has dropped a lot compared to when I only just joined. There is only so much us centric doomer content I can stomach, and Lemmy is so extremely political that it is impossible to just browse cat memes and have a good time. So I spend less time here I suppose.
I almost never see political content or cat memes. I think your experience comes down to your subscription list.
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Well, I'm here now. So there's that.
You're welcome. /s
All of the "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" spammers mysteriously disappeared
Edit: my point is that they seem awfully quiet about Trump
I mean, the vote happened and she's not running anymore, sooooooo not really a reason for them to keep talking about that issue?
Also, I remember a couple usernames from some of the most vocal and I just went and looked and it's not like they up and deleted their accounts or stopped using Lemmy. They're still active, so they didn't "disappear."
@queermunist@lemmy.ml was pretty loud about that opinion and they're still here, for example.
I know reddit being flooded with bots for 10 years has made y'all jaded but real people with real opinions that differ from ours shockingly still exist.
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The election ended, the Leftists are still here. What were you expecting to happen?
Is this a joke? They didnβt leave, the election cycle did.
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It seems more active now. Which has been great!
The cell phone apps are a lot better nowadays. They look a lot better.
I've been posting more fedi content instead of just the popular links.
With the end of the US election, there has been a bit of an ideological demographic shift, but more of a strong wind than a foundational upset.
I feel like there's less Canadian content. After the Reddit API Exodus, there was a fair bit, but that dropped off.
I think a lot of people have gone back to Reddit.
Lemmy is my only social media interaction these days, the content has improved, and the communities feel more distinct than they did a year ago. That could just be me getting up to speed though.
It was a nice surprise finding out that the left wing instances on here are actually pretty chill, way more so than on Reddit these days.
I peaked into r/communism and it's genuinely awful. Full of the most toxic people I have seen in the supposedly "Marxist" communities. Surprisingly Lemmy is way more chill than Reddit.
Not enough jeans. :(
Real answer: there's been an uptick in the amount of content lately, which is great. I've also unfortunately noticed an uptick in belligerent comments, which often detracts from the conversations taking place.
I got banned from the Canada community and according to the mod log, it was for homophobia and bigotry.
That really rubs me the wrong way because Iβve never ever posted anything like that. Iβve been the subject of homophobic and bigotry based bullying my whole life and the only comment I posted on that topic there was an account of my first hand experience of being catfished on Grindr and then outed as bi on the towns facebook page and subjected to ridicule and harassment.
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People here have gotten progressively meaner and I am seeing more and more AI slop. Also the quality of memes have fallen off a fucking cliff in all meme communities.
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