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Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

Unfortunately it boiled down to selecting the lesser of the two evils and the Abandon Harris clowns chose the neo-Nazi MAGAts which will send, for free, a nice assortment of 155 mm artillery shells to Israel.. From my point of view, zero sympathy for your FAFO.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 0 points 33 minutes ago (1 children)

I'll never understand how people could vote for Trump over Harris on the Israel thing.

Trump was crystal clear he would give Israel whatever they needed to get it done and quick. Democrats rolled over for Israel but at least made it known they weren't happy about it. Which is most certainly not enough but still.

I just hope the Democratic party takes the hint that their extremely middle-of-the-road approach to these and many other serious problems is killing them during elections. They should stop trying to please everyone (and especially the far-right) and commit to an actual opposing viewpoint.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 25 minutes ago

No Trump lied he would bring peace. Harris said she would give Israel everything it needs. You are switching the sides around.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 24 minutes ago

But don’t call these people stupid. That would be racist.

People I’ve interacted with on Lemmy 👆

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

The Abandon Harris campaign was quite clear they did not expect Trump to be better. The writer has a pretty clear agenda.

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 25 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

No no no,they saved Palestine, remember?

Now that the Dems aren't in control all those Palestinians are perfectly safe.

Right, tankies? That's all you were screeching about back in November. Now it's cricket chirps, like Palestine even mattered to you lot. Disgusting.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 minutes ago

There has been a recurring argument (not mine, heaven forbid) both prior to and in the aftermath of the election that not voting for the dems would show them that they can't keep running away to the right and still expect to win. It would teach them a lesson.

It baffles me that they think a) the Dems would actually learn the lesson, b) the alternative wouldn't be that much worse and c) the alternative that quite explicitly aimed to abolish democracy entirely would willingly afford the dems a chance to learn that lesson. If they can't eliminate democracy itself, they'll try to neuter and bias it as heavily as possible until they've got the same kind of pseudo-democratic one-party fuckery that you see in other countries like... China, North Korea, Russia, Belarus...

Huh, that's funny, seems like all the countries whose boots they're so eager to lick. I'm sure that's coincidence, right?

Actually, that's a lie. I don't believe it's coincidence at all. I think it's part of a deceitful strategy to undermine democracy through spreading willful ignorance and channeling voter frustration and disillusionment into frustration with democracy itself. Hell, there are even people claiming that a dictatorship is a necessity of revolution, that you can't build a new and better system without placing someone in charge of building it - because that worked out so fucking well with the other communist revolutions, right?

Every single fucker who gargles dictator cock under the guise of "communism" and "leftism" is an authoritarian, a traitor against the people they feign class solidarity with. You don't save democracy by not participating. You don't hold politicians accountable by supporting their opponents.

And that's being charitable and assuming they're just misguided, not intentionally malicious foreign actors.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

I love how you are being downvoted without anyone actually providing a counter point. Because you are absolutely right.

Leading up to the election lemmy was flooded with Palestine bullshit and Genocide Joe, and people that suggested it's a war started by fucking Israel and you should be boycotting them were downvoted.

A lot of people here got swept up in the propaganda, and it was painful to see how dumb my side can be, but here we are.

Orange man is coming and suddenly no-one is posting about Palestine and every thread I'm in doesn't have people screeching genocide Joe.

I'm fully convinced lemmy was flooded with foreign assets spreading bullshit and hurting democratic turnout.

It's painful to see how effective it was, an an issue so ridiculous I couldn't have believed it if it was in a book. Country X, with president Y attacks Z, and idiots here are screaming at county U with president J......

[–] don@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Their faces were made strictly to be eaten by leopards. Their faces are leopard food, and boy howdy, those leopards are gonna feast.

[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

hypocrites, these people are two faced hypocrites. they get what they wanted with the election and now their all upset? if these people are not the definition of a hypocrite idk what is.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, they voted for the leopards eating faces party and now their faces are being eaten by leopards. Huh.

Funny how that works.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Show me a trump voter who is not a wealthy white male and I'll show you an idiot.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

TIL tax law hinges on a persons color.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Why exclude the wealthy white males?

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Mainly because they are members of the class of people that will benefit, directly and indirectly, from a Trump presidency.

Knowing this, they aren’t stupid for voting for the person who will enable the gross accumulation of wealth through the systematic deregulation of industries and privatization of government services. There’s one group of people who will benefit from this: the wealthy (who are disproportionately white and male).

The idiots are people who voted for Trump thinking that his administration will result in a net positive for them socially and economically.

Voting against your interests is dumb; voting inline with your interests is not.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

The only white males that will benefit from a trump presidency are billionaires. Anyone else isn't voting inline with their best interests

... so you might say, wealthy white males.

Because they might just be selfish and evil.

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