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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago

This is peak licensing

[–] muelltonne@feddit.org 72 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The biggest problem with such a clause is that it is hard to define "evil", even if it seems clear to you. Some people think that abortion is evil, so are abortion clinics banned from Json? What about the military and weapon manufacturers? Killing is evil, but you all know how the discourse about the military as national heroes that can't be evil in the US goes. What about a service like X - is it evil? Can you define "evil" for a surveillance tool that brands itself as ad tech?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The clause also states that the product MUST be used for Good, which is a higher bar. I'd imagine most things JSON is used for are fairly morally neutral.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

From my point of view, JavaScript is evil.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'd imagine most things JSON is used for are fairly morally neutral

expect a knock from Json's lawyers. those guys are scumbags

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ask every single person what is the definition of evil and merge all the answers into one definition

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

That'd be all the things.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

You'd end up with Schrödinger's Evil

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[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

The law is basically this, it’s why nearly everyone hates the government.

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[–] ailepet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Wait I though the point of these post-opensource clauses (see also: anti-capitalist licence, WTFPL, etc.) was to scare off the big corporations lawyers and make sure your code won't end up in AWS or something like that? Are Linux distros the only actors who are still giving a shit about licencing?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you want to scare corporations use AGPL or, if you're feeling spicy, SSPL. Do not use WTFPL, it's too permissive.

[–] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

Exactly. It scares them.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Always were.

Big companies care too but only if their cya arm knows enough about software to actually enforce anything. A lot don't.

[–] TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

This gave me a brilliant idea:

  • Everyone adds a clause to whatever license they use stating "any part of this software may not be used for war purposes of any kind"
  • We wait until software with these licences is spread across the supply chain of everything on Earth
  • ...
  • World peace, as no country would be legally allowed to wage war
[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 20 points 5 days ago

"Vladimir Putin, you are under arrest for war crimes."

"It was a special military operation! It was all the fault of the Nazis!"

"No, not for all that. You're under arrest for violating the GNU GPL! Prepare to meet your source, licencef*****!!!"

*blam* *blam* *blam*

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (4 children)

OK but how can json have a license? I understand a particular json parser having a license, but how can a specification, which contains no code, even be considered "software"?

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Uh define code there. What about when storage and code are both on a machine that considers both instructions and data to be data? Is a spec not a creative work? Is code not just a spec?

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's generally accepted that file formats aren't protected IP, so you can write a compatible reader or writer and be in the clear as long as you reused no code from the original reader/writer. The specification may have licence terms that restrict who you can share the spec with, but you don't necessarily need the official spec to come up with a compatible implementation. Plenty of file formats have been reverse engineered over the years even when the original didn't have a written spec.

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Every Villain Is Lemons

E.V.I.L

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