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Ever wondered how countries are founded?

By overthrowing the previous country.

I'm not saying to do it, but the founders of nearly every country thought violence was the answer.

🤷‍♂️ Who am I to argue?

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

violence isn't the answer. it's the question, and the answer is YES

[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Gotta teach Grandma some trigger discipline.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trigger discipline is to "keep your finger off the trigger until it is time to shoot". For grandma, it is always time to shoot.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There could be a health insurance CEO just out of frame

Grandma's about to discipline some motherfuckers with that trigger amirite

[–] fl42v@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

As one of the suicide bombers in Cory Doctorow's Radicalized -- which coincidentally also explores the idea of ppl getting violently sick with medical insurance providers saying "tnx for the money, now die" -- said, violence is never the answer, as long as you ignore all the fucking human history.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

All of human societal structure has ultimately boiled down to might makes right.

All of it.

In our modern civilization we have inserted enough extra steps in between to delude most people into believing that this is no longer the case. But still it is. I have said this nearly verbatim on here before:

Who are the cops? Just guys with guns.

Who are judges? Just guys with access to cops.

Who are politicians? Just guys with access to cops and judges.

Who are the megacorporations? Just guys with access to politicians.

Etc.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Humans are chimps who by and large think themselves gorillas.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

I have a sticker ion my locker that states "violence is always an option". Never fails to raise eyebrows.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Don't piss off grandma. Especially not by denying her Medicare Advantage claim. That's a bad idea.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

‘Violence is never the solution’ is usually the thing the abuser tells you. Because they know that violence is indeed the thing that gets you actual change more often than not.

Did talking get us out of World War II? No. Are you going to reason with a dictator like Assad, Hussein, Gadaffi, etc? No. Did the French get rid of their oppressive ruling class through vigorous debate? No.

And that’s not even counting how many countries and peoples had to fight themselves free over the centuries.

Violence is not the solution to every problem. But it sure is the only solution for some of them.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Government officials, corpos, and for profit media personalities ALL have details of people with guns ready to rough up or murder others for them as they defend wars (young people murdering young people for old people's power), corporate irresponsibility born out of greed that ends in injury or death, etc.

You can call state or corporate externality based violence/murder different and better if you want. I think that just makes one a gullible sucker.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

If the violence isn’t working, you’re not using enough violence

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, bad joke.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

Wtf? What's with all these weird extremist posts.