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[–] donuts@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is really so frustrating and why populists keep winning.

Complex issues like immigration, economic inequality, or national security are framed in simple, relatable terms, like "Build a wall," "take back control," or "protect jobs".

The problem is that people don't ask any follow-up questions or other critical things like "How" and "When".

And like shown in OP, when you show a solution people go "BORING!".

We're doomed, aren't we?

[–] Aolley@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We can't get anything any better with the existing system.

could we make a better system? perhaps but it would require lots of work and resources to make a way to communicate that can then extend to making the world a better place.

Like the OP, people don';t want to do lots of work. So that's why maybe some few people will have to make a way to this all to be easy for dummies

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the PDF!

In Europe the pirate has worked out a technical system, where you can introduce new ideas to a problem and people together construct and vote for a solution - forming a consensus.

I'd really like to get rid of political parties altogether, form a slim state, that needs to put into place what was worked out in a basic democratic act by the people - in exactly such a system.

But looking at how people are so easily following just populistic, simple "solutions" and don't care for the details, I've really lost trust in the general public.

I've always said, that this is an educational problem, because if people want to govern themselves, they need to be educated on the topics and not just follow some hype - else we would easily land in some idiocracy.

The idea is, that the broader the power is scattered, the more stable the system is.
And the system must reflect the society and not the system dictate how society functions.

But it seems currently every one wants just to suck big daddy's cock and be grateful for a wannabe strongman...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Depending on where you live there are lots of very normal and reliable avenues for progress, as things have always been slowly improving in democracy.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"Bruh, I want an easy fairy-tale solution with heroes and villains"

Heh, we actually got one yesterday morning.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If this is in reference to what I think it is, unfortunately, CEOs are replaceable goons who are part of a systemic problem. As an expression of discontent with the system, it may be important, but as a solution, it's sorely lacking.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

CEOs are replaceable

As are bullets and other means of removing them.

I'm hoping this is the start of a trend: if oppressing people becomes a mortal risk, oppressors will ease up in an act of self preservation.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not that I'm opposed, just wary of seeing a solution in it quite yet.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Things are looking good so far! :D

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 23 points 3 weeks ago

"There is always a well-known solution to every human problem--neat, plausible, and wrong"

-H. L. Mencken

[–] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

University boards when students ask them to divest from israhell

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Uni administration: "I don't understand how we could just move our money to literally any of the other investments we have."

Protesters: "Here's how."

Uni administration: "Fuck off."

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

the "who asked" and "I ain't reading all that" ppl suck

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most problems dont have one fix solutions. Try to explain to any nay sayer that their buy-in is worth 100x more then any criticism they have to offer and you'll only get criticism.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Neoliberalism in two panels.

(Republicans and the owner donors of both parties are just out of frame CAUSING the problem)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If only it were a problem actually restricted only to neoliberalism.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I know it isn't, but pretending to want to solve all the problems and then doing either too little or nothing at all about it if not making it WORSE is the general modus operandi of the neoliberal Dem leadership.

The GOP are much worse, of course, but they don't pretend to want to solve the problem. They pretend that the problem is a good thing and the solution to another problem. That problem is often one that they've invented or at least vastly overblown themselves, of course 😮‍💨

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ah, then we're in agreement.

[–] lugal@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well, there is no alternative

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"NeOLiBRuliSm"

Lol, part of the problem right here

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, you are.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

In my experience it's:

Person 1: "End the problem!"

Me: "It's not that simple, here's how to end the problem."

Person 1: "I'm not reading that! END THE PROBLEM!"

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

More like both simultaneously but the simple one is literally Hitler.