Well, fuck those Trump farmers.
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Isn't that why Musk paid his way in? He's going to push his Optimus robots to do this work and he'll make all his money back that he lost on Twitter.
Oh don't worry, Trump has a plan to remove minimum wage, so Americans can work the fields. That combined with anti homeless supreme Court rulings means your ass will work the fields for $2 an hour or for free from prison.
I'm fairly certain Trump intends to arrest all the illegal looking folk that he can and then use them as prison labor for all the jobs that they used get paid for.
lol. Wait until a head of lettuce costs $14.
It's not a laughing matter. The poors will pay, and the rich people won't notice.
"how much can one banana cost, Michael? Ten dollars?"
It'll be because democrats are trying to raise the minimum wage and let trans people be represented in libraries.
/s, cuz I get in trouble for not relaying sarcasm well
It's because sarcasm doesn't work well over text.
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Lol yep the only crops we will get will have to be imported and heavily tariffed. Gg Trump
Would that be Trump voting farmers?
I live in farm country, and yes these guys are constantly voting republican and complaining endlessly about illegals, they buy into this non sense and they genuinely think it some how magically won't effect them, or that white migrant farm workers are going to magically appear.
You know it. They consistently vote against their own best interests.
They forgot to read the memo
Leopards are going to be eating well the next few years :>
Came here to say this.
Would these be the same farmers that voted for Trump? 🤔
"Ah sure ahm tired of all the mean tweets, but he tells it like it is!"
Good, fuck them for voting against their own interest and deport the second-third generatiom Mexicans thar voted for Trump.
How about the Cubans? /s
Those are just Mexicans that can swim.
Yeah, if Trump deports all those people, who will we exploit for cheap labor?
History has many examples of how shipping urban intellectuals off to work on farms rids you of said intellectuals and leads to (checks notes) mass starvation. Since that’s the worst possible outcome, I imagine he’s going to go with that.
To deport someone, the receiving country has to agree to accept them. Mexico will accept their own nationals, and possibly those of some other countries, but they won't accept everyone. What do you do with people who's country refuses to accept them back (this has happened)? And what do you do with them when you can't determine where to send them back to? You've already promised they won't be let loose, so you'll put them into containment facilities - all very hastily-built, because there are so many people you've accumulated so quickly.
But you have more people than you know what to do with, and they're all just idling in the camps, and the nation is desperate for workers. The temptation is too great: instead of spending all this money maintaining the camps, you can offset the expenses by renting them to various industries as cheap labor.
It's still expensive, your people still resent spending money on them, and you still want to deport them, so you don't spend much on food or medicine or clothes or sanitation. Winter comes, disease rips through the camps, and masses die - but that's not your responsibility, these things happen ...
Just a reminder that most of the concentration camps Germany built weren't extermination camps, they were slave labor camps but the administration didn't care if the prisoners died of disease or injury, they'd just round up more people to feed the German machine.
They'll strike a deal with some other country to take them. Then issue contracts for private chartered flights at $10k/person, given to their best buddies.
Yeah, I'm absolutely opposed to this deportation thing, it's cruel and if anything I feel that we should be encouraging more immigrants to come here, but the "it'll be bad because it'll get rid of all the people who do these jobs american citizens don't want to do" line does sorta gloss over the fact that if the job conditions are so bad that if people have literally any other option the role goes unfilled, something probably needs to be done to improve the conditions of that job, especially if it is as vital as food production.
You're not wrong but what's a realistic path to accomplishing such a thing? Capitalists want to extract as much money as possible so raising wages or improving working conditions without being forced is out of the question. The only party with even a pretend interest in forcing that discussion just got beat down all over the country. And no one cares enough about the issue to fix it by paying more for food, which would probably still be true if we doubled wages for all jobs.
Automation of some of the jobs might be possible, but likely still wildly more expensive than paying some immigrant peanuts
Is it you and me? I bet it's you and me.
Prisoners
There you go. It will be a boon for the prison industrial complex. God bless capitalism.
Prison stock prices have soared since the election.
Well I'm hoping white people but we know how well that worked in Georgia and Arizona, we found out they're just too soft to work those jobs despite being told they would be taking their jerb back
The migrant workers are often subjected to working conditions that would violate federal worker protection laws, but because they are in the country illegally, they don't report the poor working conditions out of fear. That's exploitation, through and through. No worker should be expected to tolerate such poor treatment, regardless of skin color.
These companies depend on immigrant labor... Will they stand idly by while government takes away their exploitable pool of undocumented immigrants?
Likely not, but Trumpism is very quid pro quo based, so those companies that have the means to gain favor with Trump might be able to keep their laborers or gain exclusive rights to immigrant laborers. The smaller companies will be sacrificed in this regard.
The FO phase can finally begin
It happened in 2016 and they found out and they went back to the trough for more toadstool.
This is the rare FA[FAFO]FO.
Let the face eating begin!