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Where does porn addiction awareness stop and conservatism begins? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by vfreire85@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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~~Pretty straightforward: where does the awareness that porn wrecks your mind and sexuality stops and where does simply conservatism towards sexuality begins (even in cases akin to bolshe morality)?~~

EDIT: okay, better clarifying it - i came across some video from some youtuber claiming that pornography is evil, period. and that there are things such as "metapornography", which could apply to someone in instagram posting videos of themselves in scant dressing and claiming likes of it. and that no-fap and anti-masturbation movements are good things.

i was really confused about that since that person came from apparently a progressive-yet-moralistic background. but talking to other people to see if some of my impressions checked, it came to my mind that it was a heavily directed video intended to attract left-leaning people to a conservative agenda. my bad.

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[โ€“] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

When you stop having a realistic view of porn. If you are using it as a simple pleasure and exploring sexual expression, there's no issue.

If you see you are using it too much, and is causing you problems, you may need to be aware that you are developing an addiction like any other.

If you start purposefully avoiding it even at the cost of your own comfort and stress relief, saying things like "porn wrecks your mind and sexuality", you are entering the current conservative, frustrating young people to manipulate them territory.

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 4 days ago

Like any vice honestly. It can be fun and enjoyable. Too much and then you need to get some help and it will affect you. Forcing it out of your life, however, is not actually dealing with your problems but rather just hiding from them. Finding the balance is the goal.

A true recovered alcoholic isn't someone who demands his friends stop drinking when they are around him. That's someone who is trying to hide from it. A true recovered alcoholic is someone who can see their friends enjoy a drink and say "no thanks" when asked.

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Porn doesn't wreck your mind if you're a sensible person?

What are we talking about here? Easily impressionable people with no frame of reference? They're susceptible to everything. Well-adjusted people with prior information? They're susceptible to neither.

[โ€“] Didros@beehaw.org 4 points 3 days ago

It is very simple. When you are worried about yourself and your own actions that is normal. When you are concerned about what others choose, that is conservatism.

[โ€“] Vanth@reddthat.com 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bolshe morality? What in the samhill is that?

Porn wrecks your mind?

Porn stops your sexuality? Wtf.

The real question is do you recognize you're in some rabbit hole and that you shouldn't assume even your starting framework is agreed upon by most other people.

Edit: your edit only makes me wonder if you're satisfied with the algorithm funneling you to this sort of content and how your viewing habits reinforce it. Why wonder about people who think porn stunts their sexuality (still wtf?!?) when you can be watching literally anything else? Any idiot can post a YouTube video, doesn't mean you have to watch it.

[โ€“] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What in the samhill

Reminded me of the Lois and Clark series

[โ€“] Vanth@reddthat.com 0 points 3 days ago

Hmm, not familiar with the connection. I stumbled across it while roaming Wikipedia. Origins are unknown possible from "Samiel", the name of the Devil in some opera. Or Sam Hill, a man in the 1800s known for using such foul language that his own name became a swear. Imagine that. While most strive to leave their mark on the world by leaving something good behind or raising good kids or helping someone in a life-changing way or whatever, he left behind his own name as a swear.

[โ€“] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 19 points 4 days ago

To conservatives, any porn viewing is a "porn addiction." That's their line.

Porn addiction is not on that line, not even close.

[โ€“] Botzo@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

When you start proselytizing your feelings about it including through seemingly bad faith posts on the Internet that beg the question.

[โ€“] Alice@beehaw.org 10 points 4 days ago

I maintain that what people mistake for porn addiction is just depression or possibly ADHD. Constant masturbation is a series of easy dopamine hits. If you quit cold turkey without making any other changes, you'll probably just replace it with social media or gacha games.

[โ€“] vzq@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Both notions are pretty far out there tbh. There is nothing wrong with ethically produced pornography.

[โ€“] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"metapornography" is a term new to me.

I'd expect some sort of extra interesting sex education thing. But they're on about softcore porn or people looking attractive?

[โ€“] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

go figure. i felt confused about it and most people i've talked to says it's just some conservative bullshit wrapped in women enpowerment.

[โ€“] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure this does the opposite of empower

[โ€“] iii@mander.xyz 1 points 4 days ago

Somewhere in the middle