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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If only somebody warned us 50 or 100 years ago. Oh wait, they did.

[–] killernova@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

More like over 200 years ago. There was a french female scientist that discovered the greenhouse effect before John Tyndall but I forgot her name and I'm at work rn, can't search for it.

[–] alcamtar@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they were predicting an ice age. And technically we're still in an ice age, so the planet has to get warmer to reach it's natural balance point. But it could also get cooler, because we're in an interglacial period. If we don't want continental glaciation maybe we should be thankful that the planet's warming and not cooling.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's a myth perpetuated by oil companies to discredit climate science. There was a single paper about it that was widely rejected as a crackpot theory by the larger scientific community. The consensus then was the same as it is now.

Honestly I will never forgive people who STILL continue to deny climate change is happening and refuse to legilslate on it.

[–] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

New normal, folks. So begins the era of climate migration.

A reminder that this is why we should never tolerate selfishness. We're now largely screwed because we, as a species, valued our individual comfort over expert research.

We knew what we needed to do - but no, profits. Such a dumb way to die.

Climate and Healthcare migration. I can't afford to retire here in the states. It's coming.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everything is fine, the earth simply won't be habitable for humans. The Earth will spin on without us when we inevitably allow industry to destroy humanity by making earth uninhabitable by human life.

It's what we deserve for being so stupid as to see this happening and doing nothing about it to stop it or slow it down. There's plenty of climate change advocates which are almost always drowned out by the chorus of companies and climate deniers who believe propaganda over science.

[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's be honest, this will end up with only the ultra-rich surviving in the last few strips of livable surface of the planet - and them elated to have finally "culled the undeserving" as they have been hoping for for millennia.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, the rich will be eaten. Since their power completely relies on society. Taliban in the Mountains of Afghanistan will be fine and will be fighting off a alien occupation in 1000 years.

[–] billytheid@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

The fucking irony and probable truth if that is hilarious and frustrating

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry guys, everything is fine. We just need to [redacted] and this will all go back to normal in no time.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We fucked around, now we're going to start finding out.

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, we. While some are of the impression, that climate change is only because of a select few, it's because every single one of us consumers is to blame as well.

We have the option to buy climate friendly stuff, lots of times it's just more expensive or maybe a little bit inconvenient. Also, why does one need the next new iPhone after owning the last one for just over a year? Why do we have to eat Avocados in some cases a few times a day, that are shipped around the world and need heaps of water to grow? Same as Bananas or Strawberries in Winter...the list is very long. Same as plastic free vegetables - "the cucumber has a brown spot? Nope, not getting that, I demand it's spotless!" So companies wrap them in plastic.

If there's demand, companies will fulfill that demand, if there's no demand, companies stop doing that shit, because it doesn't make any money. Every single one of us is responsible in some way or another, even if the percentage is very miniscule.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just wanted to say, this is a very good comment.

When people say it's not "we" and it's just a few people, or just companies, it always seems to me that they are - consciously or subconsciously - just making excuses for not having to actually do anything and hoping someone else will solve the problem for them. They want the problem to be solved, while not having to do anything or change their lifestyle.

There are some very obvious and clear examples of this; here's two of them:

  • Studies have shown most people are in favour of carbon taxes. But with carbon taxes, companies would just shift the extra cost onto the consumers by increasing prices. One thing affected by carbon tax, would be the price of gas itself. And when prices (especially gas prices) increase, that usually results in a lot of anger and protests. So why would any democratically elected politician ever implement a carbon tax? If they did, they would be voted out, and the next one to come in would just undo it.

  • Another obvious example, is meat. We know one of the major protagonists in CO2 emissions is animal farming. Red meat especially is responsible for a huge source of those emissions. And yet most people don't even wanna think about eating less meat, and they will still crack jokes about vegans and look at them sideways. And as for regulations regarding meat, the example from before still applies.

As you seem to be implying, what really needs to happen is a whole cultural shift. Trying to shift blame onto to a few people and hope they get the guillotine, won't change anything as long as people keep demanding all the same things because then someone else will come in to fulfil that demand. Whether we like it or not, we have to accept that it's the sum of all our actions that will determine the future, and our actions can influence other people's actions; therefore, one way or another, we are all responsible.

Sorry for typing some much at you since you're basically making the same point already, but I just felt like adding on.

[–] dynamicperson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where I stay these temperatures can be quite normal in summer. I'm now just worried that a hot summer's day here will now go from 45 to 55. I've felt 50 before. It's not fun. But besides that, I think of the implications for the agricultural sector. Good luck my European friends. I'll report back in our summer.

[–] 8275232@feddit.ch -1 points 1 year ago

It's the lack of sure conditioning in Europe that makes it especially brutal.

Sure, there are hotter climates but they are usually more prepared with AC. Certainly not always, I know.

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When talking with a past university professor, he told us a big part of the global warming problem was actually a natural cycle the earth goes through every certain period of time.

[–] max@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a natural cycle, yes. But if you look at the graphs, we’ve given that natural cycle a rocket boost to Let’s get fucked town and it’s happening a whole lot quicker than it should.

[–] fugepe@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

A rocket boost? C'mon bro. Al Gore said parts of Florida would be underwater yet he and other companies were buying beach real estate in the early 2000s