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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 2 hours ago

Somebody is counting his chickens before they've hatched.

[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be surprised though if Trump just ignores him and appoints a drug company lobbyist instead. RFK Jr. forgot Rule #1 when dealing with Trump: get paid up front.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

Awesome, we are in a situation where I am openly hoping for the corrupt commercial outcome....

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Also that he demands absolute loyality but gives none.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 11 hours ago (8 children)

If you stayed home because of Gaza, this is your fault.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 46 minutes ago

While they didn't help, I suspect their numbers were small enough to not matter in the scheme of what happened.

The answer is likely mundane. My guess is overall turnout was lower because things didn't feel as 'crisis' like as 2020. The needle for people barely aware of politics even as they vote stayed at the same place as it was in 2020: Things aren't great, kick whoever is in office out in hopes the alternative does better. Last time they came out for Biden because Trump was at the wheel. Now they show up for Trump because the president was a democrat.

This segment of the electorate is not particularly politically aware, let alone active, and likely has little to no opinion about the broader world. The relative likelihood of them turning up at all depends on how badly things are going (less likely to show up this time compared to the unprecedented mess of 2020), and to the extent they show up they just vote against whoever is in charge that day.

However, those people are generally quiet, and so we turn our focus instead to the loudest folks proclaiming a refusal to vote for Harris.

If it was close, I would agree. It wasn't even close by such a huge margin the more mundane factors I think are the only ones big enough to explain things.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (6 children)

His brain worms plan on ensuring antihelmintic drugs do not get advanced.

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[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I always imagined him as the guy at the end of Road House where Patrick Swayze ripped his throat out and round-housed him into the pond. But he survived, left the redneckville and turns out half of his vocal cords was left intact.

Why is anyone surprised. They said what they were gonna do. They’re now making concrete plans to do the things they said they were gonna do.

I’m gonna fuckin leave.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Whewww them political spoils be spoiling

[–] tiita@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

The whole presidency is alarming... Please find a bit that it is not?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Given his age, there is a non-zero chance that he may die while in the presidency?

JD Vance isn’t exactly a charismatic individual (some might even go so far as call him ‘weird’); so this entire neo-fascist movement may very well fragment and flounder in the not too distant future.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually way more afraid of Vance in the presidency than Trump.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why is that? He lacks the cult of personality to be able to carry on after Trump IMO, and was largely picked as a ‘Yes Man’.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

If he dies before they are able to really get the structural changes in P2025 off the ground, Trump's death will likely instigate the death of the movement. If it dies after that the P2025 restructuring has happened, won't matter.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Probably because he's smarter.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No doubt he’s smart, he hitched his wagon to the Trump train after all - but I don’t think that’s particularly important.

He doesn’t have Trump’s charisma, so he’d struggle to maintain control over his fan base and would likely face challenges from key faces in the cohort (eg. Ron DeSantis, MTG etc.)

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 48 minutes ago

This is basically my reasoning as well, he will most likely be eaten alive by the true believers and power brokers will break him over knee. All of Vance's influence is derived from Trump. And especially if Trunp dies before inauguration he may very well become irrelevant depending on certain factors.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 218 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

So, in other words, Trump is going to do exactly what he told us he would do.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Make no mistake, if Trump wants it, his supporters want it. I work with a bunch of morons. The country is in the hands of a cult.

My coworkers support political assassination, concentration camps for LGBT, forced Christianity. If Trump said it, they want it.

I am fully radicalized. Fuck this country.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 53 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Remember to thank all the dipshits that supported diaper donnie and his insanity. Remind them that: "YOU did this."

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Biden got 81M votes, Harris 67. Where are the missing 15M people? Where were they?

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Probably complaining about Gaza or some shit lmao. What are you trying to say here?

Democrats sounded the alarms and 15 million people, idk, pressed the snooze button.

[–] would_be_appreciated@lemmy.ml 27 points 17 hours ago

They won't hear about the bad things, or they'll be told it was the Democrats that did it, and they'll be believe it. Convincing MAGA of reality is pointless while they're still feeding from the trough of conservative shit. We're better off protesting and being disruptive in combination with getting our shit together for next round, where hopefully we'll have real primaries and get our first competent general election candidate since Obama.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 151 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (8 children)

A lot of people are going to die because of this conspiracy theorist.

I think of someone very close to me who takes mediation for depression, medication that RFK thinks is bullshit, and medication that is regulated by the FDA.

She got a bad batch of something from a generic supplier and became dangerously suicidal. We were able to report this to the FDA and send them the medication so people wouldn’t die.

I can’t see how less staffing is going to make things better. We need more people on the ground so inspections are more regular and so deadly manufacturing problems are caught early.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

They’ll blame democrats and win even more votes.

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