Where are the recordings
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Exactly, I'm not doubting they exist, but if they have them, they need released publicly, like, now.
Release! The! Tapes!
Come on, do it. It could have a real impact.
Oh my god, you just got out of your time machine from 2016, didn't you???? That's so cool! So anyway, to catch you up....
Daily beast published the referenced samples on YouTube.
I looked, and it's a whole 1:12 of the alleged 100:00:00. That's not enough.
It absolutely won't matter to a single one of his supporters.
Which is mine blowing because they talk so much about the Epstein list, because they believe it confirms their belief about corrupt elites, but then totally reject that the most likely guilty one is trump.
Why doesn't he just dump it on OpenLeaks or the like? Put all 100 hours out.
Or even just anything more important than that he pitted his staff against each other. Who the fuck cares about that?
He's probably been getting hush money which might have been getting harder to procure.
This taster might be designed to induce more bush money.
The thing I find hard to believe is that this guy has these recordings and waited until now. I’m not saying it’s not true, but this is messy bitch shit and really convenient at a dramatic moment.
It's another one of those journalists that decided to wait until his book was done. Bob Woodward did a ton of this as well, sitting on things that we should've been told in real time.
It's a classic.
You git some dirt? If you throw it out whenever, people might be caught up in other dramas or the person isn't interesting enough (like Trump 2 years ago, who would have cared?), so you have to wait and publish for maximum exposure and damage.
In france there is a whole slew of files concerning the extreme right, so when they get elected in say some small election or gets a pisition in the party, there's always some rape allegations or heil-hitler photos coming forward...
Wolff has been like this for decades. He’s as craven as the rest of them. But he’s also very often right.
Reporting on anything related to Epstein is almost non-existent because of all the powerful people that are vulnerable.
He could admit to raping little children and his base would just say these children were blessed by his dick
"But the child rapist would never rape my children!"
His base couldn't care less. He was on audio talking about dating his own daughter when she was young.
These are just regular ass manipulative shithead moves... What else would anyone expect from Trump and Cult 45?
Like so many other things, I doubt his camp even cares.
I hope the veracity of these is provable. It's so easy to fake shit these days. 😞
Remember, Trump said he barely knew the guy.
Glad audio is revealing it.
“And in some of the pictures, they’re sitting in his lap,” Wolff said. “I mean, and, and then there’s one I especially remember where there’s a stain, a telltale stain and on the front of Trump’s pants, and the girls are pointing at him and laughing.”
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Wolff claimed the FBI discovered the photos in Epstein’s safe when the agency raided his home in 2019, but never released the images to the public.
Exsqueeze me?
Somebody should make a FOIA request for them.
It would be declined. 100% guaranteed.
Source: I've made countless FOIA requests. Federal agencies decline the most innocuous requests for the least valid of reasons. Something important like this would be declined instantly.
Wait, so information is not in fact "free"?
Not only that, but some responsive files cost hundreds or even thousands of dollars in prep fees.
They were pictures of victims topless to be fair. Additionally it's not clear to me that they are over 18.
Fair point. So edit them out.
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If what this guy had was really that big, he wouldn't have sat on it for 7 years....
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This won't matter to the people who need to hear it most.
This particular recording doesn't matter to me, someone who hates Trump and wants bad news out there to remind people how bad he is. He pitted his staff against each other. A pretty toxic workplace, but not something that's really high priority in making a decision.
It doesn't even establish that Epstein and Trump were close. This could all have been him listening to the rumor mill or getting a description from someone on the inside because he was a stupid rich scumbag and could get access to high profile Republican places. If he's actually got 100 hours of bombshell recordings, this is the dumbest one to lead with.
I was trying to get across more than anything is you could build a nuanced, structured, and well-supported argument for any of his major faults, and any of his supporters would not be swayed because their opinion isn't based in fact.
Not necessarily that this was the nail in the coffin, just that you could hear a dozen of these stories a week, each of varying credibility, and it wouldn't matter if one had him dead to rights.
No one is trying to convert the faithful at this hour. That time is long past, but there are plenty of Trump-leaners who are uncomfortable with the choice and could switch or decide to stay home if they hear something they just can't accept.
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