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Cross-posted from "Arnold Schwarzenegger endorses Kamala Harris: ‘I will always be an American before I am a Republican’" by @Powderhorn@beehaw.org in !politics@beehaw.org


“I will always be an American before I am a Republican,” he wrote. “That’s why, this week, I am voting for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz. I’m sharing it with all of you because I think there are a lot of you who feel like I do. You don’t recognise our country. And you are right to be furious.”

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Just don’t type the before to that after

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

He did some dumb god damn shit in California back in the day, and he's doing the obviously right thing now that things are so different. We gather every partial win and stand together against the limpdicks.

Vote.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Noice. Call Arnold whatever you want, he's no MAGA ass-kisser.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

He's an interesting character. I don't agree with a lot of his ideas but they feel like they come from a genuinely altruistic place. The antithesis of maga.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seriously, he’s another Republican I’d trust to actually want to do the right thing even if I disagree on how.

Interesting parallel to us in Massachusetts with Romney. A blue state electing a Republican governor and generally being happy with it. Also you wouldn’t expect much from an actor or vulture capitalist, but they deliver

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

When he says something its honest as opposed to the majority of republicans just project their intentions on their enemies. The important thing here is their idea anyone who doesn't agree with them is a enemy.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 307 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

Let me be honest with you: I don’t like either party right now. My Republicans have forgotten the beauty of the free market, driven up deficits, and rejected election results. Democrats aren’t any better at dealing with deficits, and I worry about their local policies hurting our cities with increased crime.

Spoken like a true republican.

Democratic administrations are better with the economy than republican administrations in virtually every case for the last 75 years. Plus, don't forget that Clinton not only balanced the budget during his term, he left office with a projected budget surplus that Gee Dubya threw away with his tax cuts for the rich and unfunded wars.

As for crime, crime rates have been steadily dropping for decades and continued to drop under the Biden administration. In fact, violent crime rates are near a 50-year low!

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Frankly it's the kind of endorsement that is more helpful. If a moderate Republican retains the rhetoric but otherwise rejects Trump, well that might sway moderate Republican voters. If he declared the entire party was mistaken, well he loses those folks and only appeals to the folks that were already in the Harris column.

A republican saying that the Democrats are still bad, but Trump is uniquely worse and has lead the Republican leadership to lose its way, that might appeal to some people that thought to vote r no matter what, even if they had doubts about Trump.

[–] False@lemmy.world 192 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Spoken like a true republican.

I'll take that over whatever MAGA is.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 122 points 1 day ago (6 children)

MAGA is fascism, full stop. That’s not just my opinion – if you can read this list with honesty and not conclude they’re fascists, you’re lying to yourself:

  1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
  2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
  3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
  4. Supremacy of the Military
  5. Rampant Sexism
  6. Controlled Mass Media
  7. Obsession with National Security
  8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
  9. Corporate Power is Protected
  10. Labor Power is Suppressed
  11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
  12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
  13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
  14. Fraudulent Elections (or claims thereof)

It’s outright fascism. That is not hyperbole. And fascism is always a suicide cult. It destroys everything it touches, including itself.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

MAGA is just another level of republican. Like in dragonball, MAGA is nearly the final form, but the final form is fascism.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 113 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Spoken like a true republican.

That aside (I'm not arguing or disagreeing on that point): he is putting country over party which is something very, very few Republicans are capable of doing and even fewer are actually doing. On that alone, I can throw him some respect.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

He also stood up during the insurrection and was very vocal against it

[–] classic@fedia.io 77 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And he is speaking language that will make voting for Harris more palatable to at least some Republicans

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago

This is the biggest thing. If he were to actually tell the full truth here, he'd be less successful in getting his message across to the people who listen to him. Full truth is the ultimate goal, but we're so far from it that for half the country it's an impossibly huge leap to go from where they are now to the truth in one bound.

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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meh. I'd happily return to the ideological difference of the 90s / 2000s where maybe some facts don't support beliefs. But we're in a very different ballgame now.

And the fact that he's endorsing Harris instead of just saying don't vote for Trump is commendable. Many of my Republican friends that reject Trump can't stomach voting for Harris. It's apparently a very big bridge to cross for them.

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[–] lightrush@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

This is one of those situations when you just nod and take the endorsement.

At least he's never put on a red hat, or in any way spoken in favor of the blond antichrist. That's at least something.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See that’s an immigrant who actually embraced the culture he moved to glares at elon

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would pay a lot of money to see Arnold beat up Elon in a cage match. Despite the age gap, it wont even be close.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Heh, I would've paid to watch Zuck beat his ass, but he chickened out of that one.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

If there was some way to have gotten Elon to show up in Zulu gear trying to intimidate...

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Didn't his mommy tell him no or something?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In one corner, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

In the other corner, Hulk Hogan.

What year is it?

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I figure the Schwarz could take hogan and gibson at the same time.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Wouldn't need to, Dave Batista's got his back

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With a one-liner for each.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 1 points 23 hours ago

"hoe today gone tomorrow."

"Here is 'what women want' ass-hole" [bazoooka launches]

[–] ViperActual@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I truly wish we had more politicians that behave in this manner. It should never boil down to my political party versus yours. There shouldn't be any sides to governing this country.

[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't you miss the days where presidentak candidates stood up for each other .... When GOP McCain defended Obama against outlandish rumors he was a secret Muslim. Seems like those days are long gone.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Like just a couple days ago when Sanders stood up for Harris about the Gaza situation?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That's because none of the candidates were Russian assets.

In this election it's almost as if all of them are Russian assets except one.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If the country has to lose for your party to win, does it really count?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

“Increased crime”? C’mon, isn’t crime down? Don’t fall for that old white man bogeyman, Arnold.

[–] genuineparts@infosec.pub 35 points 1 day ago

He still is republican.

[–] spicehoarder@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

It is his authentic belief which will help to persuade others to join him.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 60 points 2 days ago (15 children)

This is the type of republican endorsement Harris should be touting. His politics may be shit but at least he's got broad popularity across the aisle , unlike Cheney and the five delusional people who still think his opinion is worth considering.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Finally some decent from Arnold.

Dude has been silent afaik.

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