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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Klingons, their bloodwine raised.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Riker, on his way to the holodeck.

Riker at rest.

The holodeck, in need of cleaning.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mariner, her stomach upturned.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Mariner, without a face mask...

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Riker, approaching a swivel chair.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago

Drex, his d'k tahg lost

[–] Ledivin@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a non-trekkie... yes, absolutely.

But keep it up, y'all are the only real memers on lemmy

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

To be fair I've tried. All we can do is beans and star trek. (With some Star Wars tossed in)

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What I found most interesting about this episode was how real it actually is.

Russian proverbs are well-known to often be incomprehensible to someone who didn't grow up there.

Translating across most languages is difficult just for this reason. Sayings can be difficult to grok even between British and US English.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Have ya got any more of those untranslatable Russian proverbs?

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, but have some Lithuanian ones.

Don’t spit in a well as one day you may drink from it.

Bend the tree while it is young.

Flax is not yet sown and they are already weaving the linen.

You will know a horse by his teeth and a man by his talk.

God gave teeth, God will provide the bread.

Cat stroking leads to hump raising.

Old love does not rust.

The shoemaker is always barefoot.

Whatever you do, do it well.

There is no medicine that can cure stupidity.

Well begun, is half done.

Idioms

Spoons after supper (too late to bring something up)

hang noodles on the ears (try to fool someone)

like a fifth leg for a dog (something useless)

don’t say ‘wheee’ before jumping over the ditch (too early to brag about something)

sitting like they were just kissed (to be lost and disoriented)

walking like they just sold the land (to be sad)

catch the corner (to grasp the meaning)

my roof is riding away (I am losing my mind)

it’s a fact like a pancake (something easy to accept)

to pour from an empty container into a leaky one (to talk without saying anything meaningful)

go and visit the dwarves (visit the bathroom)

like a finger in the eye (to say something accurate)

it left on the dog’s tail (a plan that failed)

cutting a mushroom (to do useless work)

to shepherd the eyes (look at something nice)

wrap words in cotton wool (trying to speak nicely about a difficult subject)

to leave someone on ice (to abandon someone)

show the goats (to cry and scream when you don't get what you want)

to clarify a relationship (to fight someone)

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks.

Here's my favorite bit of Americana.

"Chin music."

Needless chatter, as when sports fans jeer the opposition.

Or, specifically in baseball, to throw a pitch near the batter's face to intimidate them.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Not Russian but.

Stick in the eye to the one who remembers the old.

Spring of pussies.

Not all the Moomins are in the valley.

[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago

Not Russian, but 35 years ago there was a widely repeated translation joke: The slogan "come alive with the Pepsi generation" was translated into Chinese, but it literally meant "Pepsi revives your dead ancestors."

That example may be apocryphal, but translations are interesting. It's something to be mindful of when talking with otherwise fluent ESL people.

I had a very intelligent and fluent coworker who knew the English phrase "to shag" from the Austin Powers movies. She completely misinterpreted the meaning of "a shag carpet," though. It was so funny (and came up so infrequently) that no one ever corrected her.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I know that in general, proverbs are difficult to translate because they assume a lot of cultural knowledge to convey their idea.

Like if I say to you "bird in the hand", you'll understand that I'm referencing the notion that there's value to a sure thing that can outweigh the value of potentially having more.

If you ever watch a UN speech, the translators sometimes pause for a bit to figure out how to convey not just the literal words, but also the meaning and the meaning in context.

  • onion sorrow
  • the horse did not roll
  • There are elderberries in the kitchen garden, and your uncle in Kiev
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

There's a pretty good Nicole Kidman thriller called 'The Interpreter.' Kidman plays a UN translator. There's a cute little throwaway scene where some of her colleagues are chatting. One says the the American used the phrase 'pie in the sky' and she had to change it to 'castles in Spain.'

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[–] sundray@lemmus.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not OP but I got curious and found a whole section on Wikiquote devoted to Russian proverbs. Here's one example:

Transliteration: Artelnyi gorshok gusche kipit.

Translation: Artisanal pots boil (things) more thickly

English Equivalent: Many hands make light work.

It's kind of hurting my brain.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

I checked out a different site, with similar results.

May your goat cart fly to St Petersburg on a road lined with beets! [just made that one up]

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In last season of "The Boy" one of the characters used a russian proverb "Trust but verify" and I learned that it was popularized in USA by Ronald Reagan.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

A lot of Americans think Reagan invented that proverb.

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[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I... Actually understood this. What has my life come to?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago
[–] sundray@lemmus.org 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What? We're as comprehensible to outsiders as ever, right Kevin? Uh... Kevin?

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[–] frigidaphelion@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fkn picard jacket uniform is absolute peak trek swag

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm actually surprised that Paramount hasn't done more to market certain Star Trek clothing reproductions. Sure, the uniforms are basically impractical costumes, but like I think the outerwear jackets from Wrath of Khan look pretty nice.

This looks like it would be pretty comfortable in winter:

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you saying our memes are impossible for casual Lemmy users to figure out?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Reverse Flash, his goals incomprehensible.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 14 points 4 days ago
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"Kolanaki, his posting ceased."

Means I died.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Picard, holding his head in both hands

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

The shark, jumped by Fonzi

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

https://youtu.be/Zs13fJuP0F4?t=3050

Neil degrasse Tyson, hands in air!

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[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago
[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago

Romulan ambassador, holding a rod

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Kurn, his memory, wiped.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)
[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Gowron, awarding the order of the Bat'leth.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Gow'ron, being a shit.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

Why can I actually see it in my minds eye?!

So how is the Spice Pudding?

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago

Kamelåså.

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