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Trump told Benjamin Netanyahu in one call this month, “Do what you have to do,” according to six people familiar with the conversation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive and confidential information. Trump has said publicly that the two have spoken at least twice in October, with one call as recently as Oct. 19.

“He didn’t tell him what to do militarily, but he expressed that he was impressed by the pagers,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina), who was on a call this month with Trump and Netanyahu, referring to the Israeli operation that killed Hezbollah leaders with explosive batteries inside pagers. “He expressed his awe for their military operations and what they have done.”

Graham added: “He told them, do what you have to do to defend yourself, but we’re openly talking about a new Mideast. Trump understands that very much there has to be change with the corrupt Palestinian state.”

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[–] ModestMeme@lemm.ee 109 points 5 days ago (40 children)

Don’t forget to vote third party to teach the Democrats a lesson about genocide….

Seriously the American Gaza protests are 100% about disenfranchising Democrats. They absolutely never go after Republicans. Ever. Ask them about this and they get suuuuper defensive and angry.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Another felony? It looks like this Trump guy is trying to get as many as possible.

When he was calling with Putin a month ago, I saw articles claiming that in America you're not allowed to have diplomatic calls like this if you are not in a position to do so.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Hey, if I would discover that I'm immune to laws, I would also probably ignore a good deal of them

He won't get charged with anything because DeCoRuM

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago (50 children)

Surely the tankies will take notice of fhis and... Ha, no. They still say Kamala supports genocide despite her being the only candidate pushing for peace.

I just got into an argument with one of these dipshits the other day. Sick of their aggressively stupid, profoundly ignorant takes.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

They didn't, this isn't the first time the turnip has said something like this. Last time it was that Israel is going to slow.

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Aren't the pagers a war crime? Hiding explosives inside regular objects?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago
[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But let's shit on Harris anyway lol. Dumb fucks.

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[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I told my boss that i couldn't stay overtime because i had to pick up my kids, no other option. He said do what you have to do and I'll do what i have to do.

I left to take care of my kids and he wrote me up on disciplinary action.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 21 points 4 days ago

"nO oNE wAnTs to WOrK aNYmoRe"

People quit bad management, not "bad jobs."

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

2 points:

  1. More blatant violation of the (edit: corrected) Logan Act

  2. The Israeli attack on Iran should very neatly effect the election I'd think :(

[–] teft@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean a violation of the Logan Act. The Hatch Act prohibits federal employees, except POTUS and VPOTUS, from engaging in some forms of political activities. The Logan Act criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen.

There's even a section in the Logan Act wikipedia page about trump.

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[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

But protest voting against Harris is the answer, don't you see? It's so obvious. Sure, more Palestinians will die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make, so I can be an edgy social-media radical! Do you even means of production, bro?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 days ago

I'm still undecided.

Can I wait until I'm in a camp to cast my vote for the Hitler fan?

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (19 children)

Additionally, and most interestingly:

A pro-Trump super PAC called Future Coalition PAC has been placing contradictory ads targeting Arab voters in Michigan and Jewish voters in Pennsylvania. The group’s digital ads in Michigan portray Harris as taking Israel’s side against pro-Palestinian protesters. In Pennsylvania, on the other hand, the group’s ads question her support for Israel and accuse her of “pandering to Palestine.”

Sorry not sorry, but the left got played like a fiddle by not understanding the more immediate existential threat to their survival, and now I'm afraid we'll all suffer for it. Bibi put Biden in what he knew was an unwinnable situation where he had to choose between appealing to 3% of Michigan voters (Arab-Americans) and appealing to 3% of Pennsylvania voters (Jewish Americans), and now the left flank is turning toward Trump over it and he might win both states:

“Because the situation has escalated in recent weeks, I think a lot people say what’s the difference?” said Warren David, a third-generation Arab American who is president of Arab America, a digital media platform. “ I am shocked at how many people say they are voting for Trump, when we were talking to people on the streets in bakeries and in different places. Trump is really capitalizing on this.” David said he was approached by a Trump surrogate to appear at his conference in Michigan this weekend and said no. Others — including leaders from the “uncommitted” movement who urged votes against Biden in the Democratic primary race — are appearing, he said.

Heaven help us all.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

But I was assured that minority demographics would never vote against their own interests, no matter how hard the single-issue drum was beaten???

Don't worry - the Terminally Online Leftists will change their tune from "It won't change the election" to "If Palestine gets genocided by Israel, it's only fair minorities in the US are genocided too".

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In order to stop the genocide we need to vote in the people who will destroy the country and commit even more genocide, in the hopes the wreckage of the country can be salvaged into something better. I'm comfortable making this choice, because the extra genocide will only be happening to other people, not to people like me who look just like them over here in the states.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I've actually heard on two occasions now from the 'don't vote for Kamala' people that more genocide does not make things worse because you can't get worse than what is happening now.

Which- yes you absolutely can.

(Then again, I saw someone a few days ago say that Israel is worse than the Nazis by the reasoning that the Nazis were orderly about their genocide.)

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The absolutely trash argument I've gotten is usually... "Less genocide is still genocide." and then them advocating for taking an action that's likely to cause more genocide.

This is one topic where people taking a "principled stand" are just fucking idiots.

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