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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 24 minutes ago

I mean..... Correlation does not mean causation, but in this case, I'm not sure.

[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 20 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

This is a double-whammy PR nightmare.

Are we going to do what happened with Jack in the Box in the naughts and start associating E Coli with McDonalds? I remember hearing that FUD so much back then and now that the shoe is on the other foot, I wonder what will happen. πŸ€” Not to engage in the fast food wars or anything, but also fuck McDonalds for helping this fat ass at all.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

As much as I enjoy shitting on McDonald's, I don't think McDonald's corporate had anything to do with this. I'm pretty sure this was a franchise.

That being said, McDonald's may need to revisit some of the restrictions in their franchise agreements with regard to direct participation in political campaigns. A candidate visiting a location is one thing, but this restaurant directly arranged and participated in this nonsense.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

As much as I enjoy shitting on McDonald’s

So you are behind the outbreak!

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

They basically told the franchisee that they were cool with it.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How was the Jack in the Box thing FUD?

[–] hex@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

I'll be honest, though, I only really ever see it used in borderline cult-like environments, like cryptocurrency or Star Citizen. It's a very weird term to use IMO

[–] hex@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Oh I see. Like fear mongering propaganda psyop type stuff lol. Yeah I see what you mean. Thanks!

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 40 minutes ago

Yeah exactly, and welcome!

[–] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 27 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

There was a term I really liked for this kind of things: "Vacationing in poverty" I think, where people with wealth 'adventure' being homeless or something but don't even remotely appreciate that the people they're pretending to be don't have an 'off' switch or an easy out of their situations.

I find the whole premise despicable.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Especially since they keep doing it to prove that "Oh anyone can be a millionaire, ya just gotta not be lazy.", and despite each of them failing when they fail to prove this, they still proceed to learn nothing form this.

If only I could show the world what rich people really think of the common man, but if thousands of films like "Joker" and "V For Vendetta" where that's the sole point didn't do it, then what the fuck else will?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Kinda like that undercover boss show where they tried to show how great these CEOs are by throwing some money at specific employees that are struggling, ignoring that better leadership and compensation that lines up better with the value being created would improve things for all of the other struggling employees that weren't lucky enough to be assigned to boss babysitting duty (assuming the whole thing wasn't staged entirely).

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

It probably wasn't staged sadly. Those privileged billionaires saw the struggling employees as the exception, not the rule.

I know it wasn't because there was an episode where an employee disillusioned with life and struggling with drug addiction was fired "As a favor to him", and it was framed as being super wholesome, even though now that guy without any financial support and no way to get help will likely relapse harder than he ever has..

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I would understand a boss going undercover to investigate where things are least efficient and whether their subordinates are lying about safety violations at a lower cost than getting an actual investigation.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The word "subordinates" disgusts me.
Luckily I've never had to work with someone who felt they were above the other members of their team.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Subordinate has a lot of implications, and typically I only hear it used to talk about people working for the bad guy....

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I just remembered this song. William Shatner at his finest https://youtu.be/ainyK6fXku0?si=j0hPFKd4QXRM9zle

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (5 children)

Back in 2016, I didn't understand how an extremely wealthy heir to a billion-dollar fortune (and regardless of all his business failures) could present himself as the candidate of the little people. Today, after Trump was president and - of course - only made policy changes for the rich, I understand it even less. What is this photo-op all about? Are there seriously still people who don't understand that Trump has never represented the middle class - or even the working class? You can't be serious, dear US citizens.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. Half the country thinks Trump is for the little guy and Harris is an elitist asshole.

Trump was born rich. Harris grew up middle class and a member of two minority groups. The problem is the democrats are shit at messaging. It’s why Walz calling republicans weird took off. Democrats don’t usually come up with sound bites like that.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely don't understand how this is even possible. A lot of these people are old, do they not remember the 90's? Trump being "Smug Rich Asshole: The Character" was his whole brand, and people loved him for it because we were still drinking that "Capitalism good" kool-aid left over from the cold war.

How is this man with a literal solid gold toilet "The Voice of the People"

This whole nonsense makes me perfectly understand how "War of the Worlds" was mistaken for a legitimate news broadcast.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 2 points 3 hours ago

Bob Altemeyer explains the phenomenon well in The Authoritarians. It’s literally how their brains are wired. The book is free here: https://theauthoritarians.org/

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Probably belongs to a franchisee who donates heavily to the GOP and trump.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

As someone who went down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole in the 00s but realized Alex Jones was full of shit by 2010, I was incredibly baffled to see the movement align behind someone who could be an avatar of everything it feared.

That said, the racism and bigotry in that movement had gone right over my head and I generally dismissed the more out there shit like lizard people or aliens being involved because it sounded stupid. I believed (and still do) that that shit is part of a real strategy to use ridiculous claims to generate noise that makes real things like MK ultra more likely to be dismissed along with them.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Went through the same thing, admittedly what got me out of it was realizing how often it came back to "And that's why Hitler did nothing wrong!"

Which made me go "That whole "genocide is good actually" thing... doesn't really align with all this talk of how peace and love are being threatened by the forces of darkness..."

I figured it was a few bad eggs who just somehow got the wrong message, but it kept happening

All the people telling me I was on the George Soros payroll was kinda the very last straw, because how could I be the bad guy in this "conspiracy" and being so richly rewarded for it if I was struggling this much? And who the fuck was George Soros? I still to this day barely know who the fuck that even is.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, for me it was Alex Jones presenting this idea that the world elites had a plan to depopulate the world, saying that he had a solution, but then leaving that as a cliffhanger for his next video. I was left thinking, "wait, this seems more urgent than 'wait for my next video', if that's really happening, it should be a 'we gotta stop this now'".

And then I thought about the high production value of his videos. They were professional level, which would take a budget. Someone threatening such powerful enemies wouldn't have a budget, they'd have problems created by those enemies (because I never ended up in that "our enemies are simultaneously strong and weak" mindset). I didn't realize at the time how profitable his schemes were and that he could easily pay for professional-level feature-length videos, but by the time I understood that, I saw his grift for what it was.

Lol I remember being frustrated by the normies that kept dismissing it, but getting caught up in the denial shit from within sounds even more frustrating.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Went thru the same thing in 2014

[–] DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's super frustrating but as an example - my parents are deeply conservative and supportive of Trump, and also on the lower end of "wealth" and semi-retired. It is 100% misinformation. My Dad quotes the Fox news rhetoric like it's facts, and regardless of me disproving most of the BS, he is completely brain washed. At this point Trump could run a live execution of his political opponents and the Trumpets would more or less shrug.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

They wouldn't just shrug. They would actively cheer it on.

[–] BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Before 2016 he was a celebrity people liked him as a no bullshit business owner like the middle class small business owners. As he was exposed to more media and has proven he was more of an idiot it personified him as someone like them. A moron who does what they want with 0 reflection or cares about other people.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

I'm baffled as to how anyone other than asshole bosses saw him as anything other than another asshole boss. The Apprentice gave me a strong negative opinion of him, similarly to how Shark Tank gave me a strong negative opinion of Kevin O'Leary.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Wow, someone has actually died as a result of this McDiddles E. Coli outbreak? Imagine living your whole ass life, doing regular shit, being a regular ass person, and then dying to a mcdouble. WTF. Just another reason I rarely let other people cook my food.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Gloves and hot oil do not mix well. Good way to get gloves melted to your hand.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you get hot oil on your hand, glove or no, you're gonna have a bad time.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

For sure! I would rather have a burn than a burn with plastic/rubber in it, though.

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