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[–] SuspiciousPumpkin421@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This literally happened to me recently. Was going to Germany for 2 weeks and wanted to use a cheap eSIM for data only. I asked them if they could unlock my phone so I could do this, and they said no since it’s not paid off. I still have a new months left to pay it off, and didn’t wanna drop $250 to do that so I just had to pay the international data plan. $12(maybe $10? Can’t remember) a day, 10 day maximum charge per cycle so I’ll pay $120 for mine and $60 for my partners. Instead of the $11 30gb data plan I wanted. I’m never buying a phone from a carrier again, I will always just buy it outright from now on. It was a stupid situation.

Also the data roaming sucked, each time we moved from one provider network to another we had to restart our phones as the data didn’t wanna work…

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 7 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

A burner phone with a hotspot would have been cheaper.

[–] ECB@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago

Personally I always always buy phones with two sim slots. It's super practical if you travel semi-often.

Idk about apple, but basically all of the mid-range androids have this feature. I guess this is about the US though, so it's probably Apple.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

This is the way. Go buy a cheap phone when you get there and screw AT&FEE

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

When I bought my current phone they sent me one that was locked. I called at&t to try and get it resolved and they told me to pound sand because I'm not a customer. Huge ordeal that could have been solved in 2 minutes.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Capitalist companies can be awfully communist when it comes to our cellphone.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 6 points 14 hours ago

That’s giving them too much credit. I think they want it to be theirs.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Like when you buy the thing sooner? Cuz we would remove all the bloatware they add. They used to do that to computers and we just stopped buying those shit things and building our own.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Shit man. I used to work at a Circuit City at the height of bloated shitty Celeron PCs.

We would be forced to sell a "system optimization" on each PC we sold. It was just a script that uninstalled a few of the bloatware items and tweaked the animation speed to make the customer think we did something incredible.

I fucking hated that job!

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I made a lot of money when I had a shop reloading machines. After a clean install without all the crap the manufactures and some of the stores installed the customer was happy with the speed increase.

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That’s just straight up a scam

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Did you not see they said circuit city? Probably felt it was redundant to call it a scam.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Reads like a scam. Maybe our time is not as full of scams as compared to the past.

After all, memories get distorted. As kids and teens we'd have parents look out for us and give good advice, helping us avoid some of the worse parts.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is about network unlocking and not bootloader unlocking

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Ah okay. I thought I was dead and went to heaven accidentally. I guess I'm back here. I'll just place my nuts on the anvil so my new phone can be safely smashed over them. Or like how can I buy a phone that is actually truly mine and not the phone company's?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (17 children)

Just make carrier locking illegal and have customers pay the actual price, now it's just hidden costs to the consumer.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It isn't been a hidden cost for a while. Phone companies sell the phones at full price, but consumers want the 2 year 0% APR financing.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (20 children)

If consumers bought the phones from a third party, there'd be absolutely no reason to lock the phone to a carrier. But when carriers also provide the financing, there's an incentive to keep them on the service until the bill is paid. Screw that.

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 175 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I don’t play this game. I buy my own unlocked phone and find prepaid cell service at a fraction of the cost.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I accidentally broke my Sony after drowning it a little too hard. I remember going into a AT&T store at a mall in the us and having this literal conversation.

"Do you have the Pixel 7 Pro?"

"Yes! We do."

"Does it come carrier unlocked?"

"No..."

"Thanks for your time"

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 33 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I usually just buy my phone directly from a big box store never from a carrier

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Same, and phones are good enough now that I feel perfectly comfortable buying a device that is two generations behind. I recently saved nearly $1300 by doing this ($1800 when it was new; I paid $550), and the phone feels just as fast and responsive as a brand new flagship.

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 97 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Basically, AT&T argues against it saying it’ll force them to innovate and be competitive with other services.

Won’t anyone think of the poor telecom shareholders??

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 81 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/contact/phone/q19.htm

Canada:

First, locked phones are a thing of the past. Effective December 1, 2017, service providers will have to offer unlocked devices to their customers.

What are the benefits of having an unlocked device?

An unlocked device can be used on other networks, which means that you will be able to switch providers and keep the same phone. That means more flexibility for you, the consumer.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I want to reiterate this. Even second hand phones. Find the carrier and call them. They legally have to oblige.

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[–] progandy@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Meanwhile Australia is going to fore carriers to disconnect customers with devices that are not guaranteed to support emergency calling over volte. As there are still unsolved problems with detecting that, the providers fall back to only allowing devices they provided themselves.

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