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  • Price: 370$
  • Model: Asus ROG Strix G15 (G531GV)
  • CPU: Intel I7 9th Gen
  • GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB
  • Ram: 16GB
  • Storage: Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB (NVME)
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[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 68 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How often do you write the word "wads"? I can see a potential problem.

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

They're a huge fan of doom mods and level packs.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 36 points 2 days ago

I genuinely didn't realise that! It looked like they were missing, and just had the little nubs underneath.

Would you perhaps like to imagine they were missing, if only for the sake of my previous comment? :)

[–] faultypidgeon@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ht o you men? You cn typ jut fine ith keybor like tht.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

it's wrs with dvrk
lthugh vwls r lss imprtnt

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Solid device

However, your battery life is going to be like 2 minutes

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 18 hours ago

My i7 8th gen 32gb 1060 MSI g65 stealth with a brand new battery gets 45minutes - 3 hours depending on what I'm doing....it's atrocious.

I main a 1135g7 32gb dell latitude and that seems to be in the happy range of 3hrs-5hrs 3hrs being the more more common time. As much as I hate the plastic package I really go love the 1135g7 processor. Dell just sucks at making good hardware.

[–] Cornelius@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

This

Gaming laptops usually have atrocious battery life, especially ones with Intel i9s and comparatively weak GPUs. Means they put the whole budget of the laptop into the CPU and nothing else.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 days ago

If there's nothing wrong beyond the hideous consmetic damage sure.

Some distros have some very specific images like this one that I would install if I had the same computer: 1000010590

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

Did someone spraypaint this before removing stickers from it? Because if that is the case hell yea buy it. You will never agaín find a laotop with such style ever again. Especially at that price.

[–] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

For that price I'd buy it myself

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (4 children)

2060, 9th gen and 1Tb SSD for 400 is a good deal in my opinion. Don’t fear the nvidia BS spreaded here, with an up to date distro, it is no problem

I use my 780 with endeavourOS and latest proprietary driver without issues. I had to switch some packages from the nauvau edition to the nvidia editions. (Vulcan and cuda stuff)

In kde settings about page you can easily check if vulcan is running good

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

NVIDIA drivers are notoriously bad. They break and WILL depreciate your card eventually, forcing you to switch to the slow open source drivers.

I have had two cards lose support. It's absurd.

But for 370 it's kinda a steal honestly.

[–] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Been using nvidia cards/drivers for the past 20 years. Never had an issue with the drivers breaking or depreciating(?) my hardware. My current card, a 1060 6gb, has been in constant use for the past 7.5 years with no measurable drop in performance, using official drivers.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I have a quadro k2000m in my laptop. Cannot use modern drivers, and old drivers slowly have their support dropped by everything else. If the chip works then the drivers should as well.

AMD does not have this problem. AMD has open source drivers. If NVIDIA made their drivers open source then it would not be a problem.

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[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Gaming laptops have some of the worst builds. They break down very easily. This is why people go for Thinkpads and Elitebooks. I think that you can get yourself a 7th/8th gen Thinkpad Pxy, P1 or X1 Extreme series with a gDPU, and that would be a better deal - but do remember, they all have Nvidia dGPUs. And if you don't really need a dGPU, then there's the Thinkpad T series with the Ryzen processor.

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 18 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Cant recommend anything with Nvidia.

[–] SaveMotherEarthEDF@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Sorry but could you please elaborate. I've been using nvidia forever in linux machines both at work and at home. I work in AI so using nvidia gpus is a must. Maybe there's something that I missed but my experience has been pretty solid so far.

At home I am using openSUSE tumbleweed KDE wayland and at work ubuntu headless.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

My experience (and many others') has been contradictory to yours. AMD, on the other hand, pretty much always works without any fuss.

Some people like to pretend, for whatever reason, that this is a "skill issue" despite it being well-documented for several decades, and regularly called out by the inventor of Linux himself.

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

These days ROCm support is more common than a few years ago so you're no longer entirely dependent on CUDA for machine learning. (Although I wish fewer tools required non-CUDA users to manually install Torch in their venv because the auto-installer assumes CUDA. At least take a parameter or something if you don't want to implement autodetection.)

Nvidia's Linux drivers generally are a bit behind AMD's; e.g. driver versions before 555 tended not to play well with Wayland.

Also, Nvidia's drivers tend not to give any meaningful information in case of a problem. There's typically just an error code for "the driver has crashed", no matter what reason it crashed for.

Personal anecdote for the last one: I had a wonky 4080 and tracing the problem to the card took months because the log (both on Linux and Windows) didn't contain error information beyond "something bad happened" and the behavior had dozens of possible causes, ranging from "the 4080 is unstable if you use XMP on some mainboards" over "some BIOS setting might need to be changed" and "sometimes the card doesn't like a specific CPU/PSU/RAM/mainboard" to "it's a manufacturing defect".

Sure, manufacturing defects can happen to anyone; I can't fault Nvidia for that. But the combination of useless logs and 4000-series cards having so many things they can possibly (but rarely) get hung up on made error diagnosis incredibly painful. I finally just bought a 7900 XTX instead. It's slower but I like the driver better.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd tell them to knock 50-70 off for the condition of the surfaces. No idea about the model and specs or if that's worth it but that's an ugly case on it and I would be grossed out using it, would probably have to tape a sheet of paper over the worn out spots to be comfortable touching that surface.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My laptop, similar Taiwanese brand, is fairly new and already beginning to look like this. I don't know why they have to be such cheapskates with the crappy fake metal finish. Somehow we can find enough aluminum to make disposable Coke cans out of it but it's too expensive for a laptop casing.

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[–] gento166@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

afaik, if u use the proprietary nvidia drivers and the https://asus-linux.org kernel, u should be good to go. and also, according to this, fedora is the recommended distro of choice by the asus-linux team, but u should find guides for other distros that also support the asus-linux kernel on that website

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[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Older, out of support, nvidia drivers tend to break from time to time.

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[–] aspitzer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Nvidia works just fine on Linux despite what anyone says. People are just upset because it's a closed source driver. I have used Nvidia exclusively for like decades without issue. Just purchased an RTX3090ti (upgrade from a 2060) for Ollama, InvokeAI, and ComfyUi. Plus I do a lot of gaming. All of it works right out of the box with no tweaking.

[–] Cpo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (31 children)

My experience with Nvidia (granted, 3 years old experience):

Going with the closed source driver means stuff breaking each kernel update. Going with the opensource driver (while it may work for you): not everything is supported.

So its not just "people being annoyed with Nvidia" i'd say.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

NVIDIA has improved a lot over the past year.

Explicit sync support in Wayland now.

Even the closed drivers use Open Source components in the kernel now. For newer cards, that is the default.

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-transitions-fully-towards-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Man I wish my time with Nvidia was as easy as you claim it to be.

I had a 1080 Ti that I was forced to sell because Nvidia drivers made my PC unusable.

The performance drop going from a 1080 Ti to a RX 580 was huge, but it was well worth it for a system that would actually work reliably.

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[–] SaveMotherEarthEDF@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't see why it won't play nice with linux but as to if you should buy this laptop... it doesn't look in a good shape. I am a bit biased as I had poor experience with laptops with gpus. Old laptops can have bent heatsinks so you can't control the temps no matter what. If yiu are hell bent on buying it then I'd recommend to stress test both gpu and cpu and look for heavy thermal throttling

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