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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 121 points 1 month ago (4 children)

If anyone is trying to understand the current political situation in Russia, a brief look at their history is very instructive.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Russian History:

And then it got worse…

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

"we thought we hit rock bottom, but then we heard a knock from below" -Russian Joke

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

We wanted the best but it turned out as always.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

“If I fall asleep, wake up 100 years later and somebody asks me, what is going on in Russia, my immediate answer will be: drinking and stealing”

--Alexander Rozenbaum

[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For a brief recap of just the Soviet Union part, this is a fun little song.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He should have moved quicker to consolidate his power.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He clearly didn't listen to the right advisors.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Rookie mistake.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

By this time twenty years of solitary confinement had disturbed Ivan's mental equilibrium, though he does not seem to have been actually insane. Nevertheless, despite the mystery surrounding him, he was well aware of his imperial origin and always called himself Gosudar (Sovereign). Instructions had been given not to educate him, but he had been taught his letters and could read his Bible.

I was most curious if like, he was even aware. Reason being Anne Frank doesn't remember much from before she knew language, only what she remembers as (very vague paraphrasing) primative instincts to want ice cream.

But it seems he was taught enough to understand his situation. Not sure if that's better or worse.

Edit; yes, Helen Keller, not Anne Frank

[–] SineIraEtStudio@midwest.social 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you mean Hellen Keller? Anne Frank was the girl living in the attic during nazi occupation in World War II. Helen Keller was blind and deaf and, to my recollection, wasn't able to communicate until adulthood when a teacher came along to teacher sign language.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe they're confused because the teacher's name was Anne Sullivan?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah I'm confused because I'm an idiot

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, being an idiot my job around here! Are you trying to Ivan VI me?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We are all idiots on this blessed day.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I am all idiots on this blessed day!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We do speak for ourselves. That's how everyone knows we're idiots. If we were like Hellen Keller, most people would have no idea.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know who you're talking about, but it's not Anne Frank.

[–] tpyo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Yes, it is the happiest Russian childhood in history.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Upon the accession of Peter III in 1762, Ivan's situation seemed about to improve, for the new emperor visited him and sympathised with his plight, but Peter was deposed just a few months later. New instructions were sent to Ivan's guardian to place manacles on his charge, and even to scourge him should he become unmanageable.

Dang. Upon the doorstep of deliverance, a new emperor visiting your cell, empathizing with your position, only to have him deposed just as ruthlessly, and your situation made all the worse. How is this a real story and not some terrible ancient Greek tragedy?

[–] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Greek tragedies tend to start at a high point and head towards a low point and this boy never had a high point at all. This is more like a Russian tragedy

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I mean, little dude peaked at two months old as emperor of Russia, then was Man-in-the-Iron-Masked until his death, right at the moment of his release.

Russian or Greek, it's a freaking tragedy. I hope the guard that followed orders in killing him before he could be released was subsequently wrecked. Freaking bootlickers, man. They exist in every century.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I hate it

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

"...and then it got worse."

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Interestingly this happened after the death of the Man in the Iron Mask