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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well yeah, they’ve been shilling for the other team and now she has the gall to ignore them for people who are more relevant?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

And politicos readership isn’t who need energizing and convincing. The people who aren’t voting and aren’t paying attention are the ones she needs to find.

Any political analyst with half a brain could figure that out. Especially with the election this close and the electoral college the way it is.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 86 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, turnabout is fair play, because the complete and total lack of integrity, and visibly naked profit drive in terms of how they conduct themselves and inform the public discourse these days, has pissed me off for well over a decade.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sanewashing Trump while seeking to nitpick every tiny detail of Harris's platform to death is the exact same "both sides" bullshit from 2016. What's different this time around is no one buys these outlets as some kind of Fourth Estate above it all. They're looking for a gotcha answer, so they can put up a clickbait title attacking Harris and generate more clicks.

Harris is not playing by their rules. Good for her.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago

no one buys these outlets as some kind of Fourth Estate above it all

The actual journalist organizations out there are few and far-between.

Your statement above is doubly apt. Murdoch wasn't buying them as some kind of 4th estate either ;-)

[–] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Legacy media wants to be the kingmakers, aka "you cannot deliver your message without us, we have to shape the narrative". She's communicating directly to her voters and it's pissing them off. And then, whenever they get a chance to ask her something it's always some inane shit like "why do you think Trump says you're not black" and not a single actual policy question.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 9 points 1 month ago

Or they'll do shit like put Harris on full blast for not providing "detailed policies," and then moving the goalposts to "but how do you pay for it" when she does, and nitpicking every word of every sentence she says. Meanwhile, Trump will cancel interviews, go up on stage at rally, spew a word salad response, and the NYT will bend over backwards to reword the salad to make him look better, while casting his decision to dodge a second debate as "smart" and avoiding any form of scrutiny as "efficient use of campaign funds." At best, they'll halfheartedly throw in a fact check like "his plan to fix inflation by levying tariffs will increase inflation" but they don't dare portray him as the senile, hate-filled lunatic he is because they're terrified of angering their right wing audience (who are already shifting away from legacy media anyway to reinforce their bubble). They also do this because virtually all forms of legacy media have been coopted by the billionaire sociopaths that would very much like a second Trump term to give them another tax cut and the "freedom" to pollute our world and grind the heel of their boot into the face of the working class so that they can race to become the first trillionaire.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 56 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Youth vote isn't looking at politico or the legacy media.

These dudes fart into jars so they can smell their farts, I bet.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

oh god I bet thats true wow god imagine it

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Legacy media seems to be about as bad in faith as the Republicans are, they are just better at hiding it. But giving any legitimacy at all to Trump has shown their true colours.

The big ones are pretty much all right wing media, some of them are just targeted at people who find a rant about hierarchies of race, gender, or sexually to be in bad taste.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago

Yep.

Look at how legacy media is covering today. Kamala went on 60 minutes. What are they reporting on? Trump's reaction to it and what conservatives think.

I heard the term "sane-washing" in the context of news only posting interpretations of what Trump is trying to say.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

“We don’t know her well enough”. Sounds like she’s trying to satisfy their request?

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 27 points 1 month ago

Legacy media sucks pretty much. They keep sucking off Republicans and asking Harris non questions that no one gives a shit about. They talk about wanting to press her on issues but then they don't do that at all. Their idea of pressing her on an issue is asking her about dumb shit like her race or some statement she made back in the past that's already clearly explained. Meanwhile when they interview Republicans it's all hwarts and rainbows and normalization.

Fuck em

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Listening to the NPR Up First podcast, they mentioned that Kamala is going on podcasts. They did point out that the podcast hosts don't have journalistic training.

Kind of disappointing, but understandable coming from people who went to school for journalism.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Harris knows that swing voters are not listening to NPR. They’re listening to the stuff at the top of Spotify and Apple’s podcast lists.

Trump also knows this, and he’s been doing it longer than Harris has been.

[–] JaymesRS 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

On the other hand, the current political press acts like it has never even read the dictionary definition of journalism let alone had journalistic training these days.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 5 points 1 month ago

Doesn't really matter though, none of the big news agencies have any journalistic integrity anyway. If everyone's just gonna make up bullshit to get ad revenue, the only thing that really matters to a politician is what audiences does a content creator give them access to.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reminds me that Obama was on Between Two Ferns over ten years ago. Granted, it was not during his election, but that one stands out as particularly silly. Plenty do late night TV, though, and Conan might have been my first exposure to Obama when he was a relative no-name in Chicago.

Those types of things really humanize politicians. I feel like that was lacking with Biden (although I think Hillary tried because there wasn't much to humanize). I'm glad Harris is doing a good job taking the more interesting outlets. What next, Hot Ones?

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great idea, surviving "da Bomb" could improve her street cred considerably.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, we jest but she'd probably rock that, growing up with indian food and all. Lol

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

I hope it works.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Really good article, thanks for posting.