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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 160 points 1 month ago (4 children)

how is this not on the front page of every news source?!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 122 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Because Trump is firehosing. There's too much bullshit and fascism, and it would consume any media outlet that reports on it, making the news media appear to be biased.

Look at the complaints from the debate, "Oh wahh, they fact-checked me but didn't fact-check Harris!" and now CBS is saying they won't fact-check the VP debate. They keep doing it because it works.

Trump is floundering. His poll numbers aren't looking great, and his VP keeps fucking up campaign events, people are leaving his rallys on camera behind him, so Trump is just going to shout whatever bombastic bullshit comes to mind in the hopes that it will drown out the other stories. And it fucking works.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 43 points 1 month ago

... people are leaving his rallys on camera behind him, ...

Of note, those people who sit right behind the speaker and get to be on camera - those people are specifically selected to be there.

Even the people who have been chosen to be Trump's backdrop are leaving early.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

His poll numbers aren’t looking great,

They're not looking anywhere near as bad as they should. 44% for Trump and 48% for Harris doesn't mean much when the states' election infrastructure has been systematically compromised by Republicans and the election all depends on a few swing states. There's still a good chance of Trump being the next President.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree with that. People need to vote like democracy is at stake.

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What tiny bit of democracy that we are allowed is totes at stake. Trump's administration is talking about regressing us back centuries in this country. Like corporate towns and child labor back. And all because some brain rotted morons are mad eggs got more expensive. Well it just makes me sad, cause they have no idea how bad shit can get for the common citizen.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“Oh wahh, they fact-checked me but didn’t fact-check Harris!” and now CBS is saying they won’t fact-check the VP debate.

And if there weren't already enough examples that our media are complicit in this clownshow, this puts it over the top for sure.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wouldn't say it totally works. Yeah some people vote for him but he's literally only losing ground, Trump hasn't actually made any political gain since his initial election, maybe Jan 6th and maybe getting shot at.

But other than that, he really only loses support at least from what I see in my swing state.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I hope you’re right.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like so much Trump says and does, it's Republicans demanding a state of affairs that already exists, but that we're socially ashamed of.

Ask the guy in the NYC subway who caught a bullet for being adjacent to a turnstile jumper if we have violent policing. Ask George Floyd. Ask Sandra Bland. Ask Rodney King.

It already exists. We already functionally endorse it. We already put these acts is brutality on the front page.

We just don't feel good when we see it. That's what Trump wants to change. He wants us to view domestic police brutality like Israelis treat genocide in Gaza and Lebanon. He wants us to clap.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've got a buddy who had the shit beaten out of him by Austin PD back in the '90s. He's A REALLY big white guy and the police cited his size as the reason they felt threatened by him.

He fortunately won his lawsuit when he was able to provide evidence that the police beat him up because it seemed like a fun challenge to take down someone so large.

Trump's call for violence is one that cops nationwide will gladly answer

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Trump’s call for violence is one that cops nationwide will gladly answer

Yup.

Protests about police brutality are met with wave of police brutality across US

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So what if it were on the first page? Do you think that republicans who know how to read would care?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

It was the Republican who knows how to Read's idea in the first place!

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Because they want Trump to win.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is very insightful. Ty for the link.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

I'm from Germany, where this shameful history is part of our past. But even today, unfortunately, and even in my home country, there are resurgent forces that want exactly that once more: Hatred against everything that seems foreign to them. Don't let that happen anywhere in the world. Let history speak for itself and let us be wiser this time: never again this inhumanity, never again racism against whomever it may be directed at.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I was thinking night of long knives, considering who Trump says is out to get him.

[–] IMongoose@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Trump's running the 1s platform.

1 vote and you won't need to vote anymore.

1 hour they'll fix crime.

1 day with dictatorship and Trump will fix the rest.

This is a completely normal thing to campaign on and not at all concerning.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump told the crowd, "One rough hour, and I mean real rough, the word will get out, and it will end immediately. End immediately. You know, it'll end immediately."

Trump continues to think it all works on fear and "respect".

On X, formerly Twitter, Ben-Ghiat posted, "I study dictators and this chills me. Given all his comments in the past about executing people & shooting looters and his admiration for leaders specialized in mass repression, it's not hard to imagine what 'one really violent day' would mean."

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Ok so can we start with a really rough day of policing election fraud, inciting insurrection, business fraud, not paying suppliers, sexual assault, stealing classified government documents, and shitting your pants in public. Then maybe the word will get out and we won't have to go further.

... Ok maybe not the last one. That's just unfair.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If he allows this then the other 364 days of the year will turn into open season on cops. Gangs will be out for vengeance, and will not let it slide.

Not to mention that virtually every gun owner out there will prepare for such a day. You’ll end up with countless firefights between a relatively small number of cops and a lot of heavily armed groups with nothing to lose. Unless the orange Cheeto has some way of magically confiscating all firearms ahead of this then I think it’s going to be very difficult to convince the cops to do this.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I even bet to some extent if all the gangs knew this was going to happen, they'd work together to survive the day while weakening the police as much as possible.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is not a movie. Gangs will fold like they always do when confronted with superior firepower.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Who said anything about gangs? If this comes to fruition, I'm prepared to shoot the Gestapo if they come for me, my family, my friends, or my neighbors.

If Trump is elected, every single one of us needs to arm ourselves if we aren't already, and we need to fight back like our futures depend on it - because they will. If it's a kill or be killed situation, I'm not planning on getting killed.

If you honestly think Trump's plan is about going after actual criminals, and not just targeting and slaughtering activists, PoC, and the queer community, you're not paying attention.

Republicans want us dead. If they try, kill them first.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Who said anything about gangs?

The...comment I responded to?

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh sorry, I forgot Lemmy doesn't understand rhetorical questions. I'm responding to both of you on this one, and don't expect an answer because my point is that this doesn't have anything to do with gangs.

Not that the rhetorical distinction matters, we're talking about Trump's statement which did not mention gangs. So yeah, what makes you think this is about gangs (both of you)?

[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Donald Trump is like the Biff Tannen of the future. You know the one - where Hill Valley is in tatters and he's abusing women in a penthouse somewhere

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Theyre_the_same_picture.jpg

Yes, Tannen is trump.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Trump is a cunt and a bitch and a little baby-handed pussy who nobody would take seriously even if his pudgy squad of mooks was murdering their family right in front of them.

No matter how much he dials it up he's still weak.

Vote.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So, a night of the long knifes?

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Nov 4 is Kristallnacht.

[–] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

He didn't mention anything about the Log cabin Republicans or purifying his own party so I am guessing that's gunna be a future suggestion once he's in power. Right now he still needs their support.

If you mother fuckers are not at absolute zero by now.

[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What was the full quote? I expect it to be complete shit but he gets partially quoted out of context enough I've learned not to trust headlines quoting just a phrase. He vomits legitimately terrible things often enough we shouldn't need to exaggerate or manufacture bad quotes. I want to read this one.

[–] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Watch it. It's really there. Starts shortly after ~~44:34~~ (39:00) on the timestamp. That should be enough context.

I searched for "One Rough Hour" in the transcript to find the section.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?538747-1/president-trump-campaigns-erie-pennsylvania

*edit: A Clip that I found the quote directly from: https://x.com/Acyn/status/1840483582433009711

*edit 2: I hate this speech. I hate C-Span's Text Links to Video Anchors. They're horrible. Another point at 39:00 exactly he says "See we have to let the police do their job, and if they have to be extraordinarily rough... " *edit 3: At 41:00: "One Rough Hour.."

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kristallnacht.

MAGA are Nazis.

Lugenpresse!

I mean, fake news!

[–] CazzoneArrapante@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Ok, then, let's adopt their own methods. Ban the GOP and if MAGA people scream, go full Tienanmen on their asses.

[–] Th3BFG@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Put these fascists on the map! Know where to avoid for safety! Know who isn't your ally! https://magatmap.com