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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They weren't being paid during the time they were working to usher and assist boarding passengers?

What the fuck.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. Their pay started when the door closed and ended when it opened. The rest of the work at the gate or prepping the cabin was just free labor.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And that's WITH existing union agreements already, so you know it was even worse than that before the union was formed in the first place. Unions don't appear out of nowhere. If a business or industry has a union, it's because the workers were being screwed so hard it became necessary.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They used to get paid with a pack of cigarettes and a slap on the ass.

[–] Throw_away_migrator@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Spirit still does

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spirit outsources the slap to whoever is sitting in seat 1C.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Is it wage theft if I just say I did it?

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is seriously insane to me. I start getting paid as soon as my ass hits my chair. And when I was working in an office, it was as soon as my foot went in the door.

I can't imagine interacting with the public on behalf of a company without being paid for it. Wtf.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You a freelancer/contractor now?

In office you weren’t salaried I suppose

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I was a consultant for most of my career until recently where I switched to a salary employee.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Ah hope that’s a rewarding switch one way ($) and/or another

[–] CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is a huge deal. They should be paid from the minute they enter the airport but this is at least a step in the right direction. Another W for unions

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Agreed!

Flight attendants typically are not paid until the aircraft doors close. All that greeting, seating, sorting out problems, and assistance with bags is off the clock.

This makes no sense. This is a major part of their job. Imagine what would happen if they stopped doing this function altogether - boarding would become unbearable.

Next I'll find out that the pay stops as soon as the doors open and they're not getting paid to help people off the plane or greet them. (Seriously, I hope I don't find this out because it's not true.)

[–] CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does stop the second the door opens. No idea if this change fixes that too tho

Well, that's disappointing. Totally do not understand this culture of doing work and not getting paid for it.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now give them retroactive boarding back pay.

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Not that I'm defending them but that will probably put all airliners out of business. Which I hope it would.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 month ago

Collective action works. Tell your friends.

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Ah the land of the free to be exploited by corporations...

[–] exanime@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

https://www.tcworkerscenter.org/2018/09/wage-theft-vs-other-forms-of-theft-in-the-u-s/

Wage theft dwarfs and eclipses any other type of theft COMBINED. But how many cops are arresting CEOs for that? How many in jail? 0