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But I want that bagel...
It's a matter of principle.
If you leave a tip, the terrorists win.
Honestly that's kind of what they are
They set up a system so they can pay less to their workers, AND get their customers and workers to blame each other for it. They're scammers, not terrorists.
Intimidation free bagels taste better though
*240dB alarm triggers*
This kills everyone near by, and might bring down the building.
pressuring me THAT HARD to give you free money when i already bought your stuff is a sure way to make me cancel the purchase and never return.
I always tip well, but in this case my love of loud alarms would win out
Even for pick up when you’re not a regular?
Good on ya!
(I’m a firm 20% when I’m sitting down but I decline to tip when picking something up at least half the time. Definitely tipped 2020-2 though.)
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I’m okay with punishing everyone else with that deafening alarm.
#RrrrrrReeeeemix
Definitely hitting the alarm and walking out of there ... I'll let them deal with the noise
slowly puts ear buds in and sets noise canceling to 100% as the cashier slowly realizes what I’m about to do
They never asked for this. Give 'em the disposable foamies and make eye contact while pushing no.
I don't mind tipping but I it is my choice not yours
... and I choose not to tip counter service.
The only time I tip with counter service is when something is like 3,80€ and I give them 4€ in coins.
At that point, I usually just go "keep it"
Fine by me, Im leaving anyway.
Cool, can I sue over damaged hearing because you are a total POS?
85db or above can cause hearing damage, and every 10db is a doubling of sound so that would be 8x louder than 85 db threshold.
Also for reference, a jet engine is 140db
At 85 dB you'll have hearing damage from long term exposure without hearing protection. Normally considered 8 hours a day 5 days a week. So 2000 hours in a year. Higher sound levels have a lower threshold so shorter times. 120 dB is the threshold of pain, so immediate hearing damage. Also, dB are a 10x log scale. So every 10 dB is an order of magnitude increase. So the siren is actually about 3000x louder than when you should start wearing earpro.
My first thought also. Not only am I not tipping, I am suing for the painful, immediate and permanent hearing loss.
The lowest tip value should be higher to reflect current tip pressuring tactics.
The tipping system in America is so broken.... It's no more than “we don't pay our employees, feel bad for it”.
Employees, on the other hand, should be upset at their employer for such practices, not at every customer who doesn't tip.
Restaurants that switch away from tips frequently switch back. There was a big push about 10 years ago, and most have closed or switched back.
Customers, as a whole, just see menu prices go up and go someplace else; the customers who actually understand the trade-off are too few for that model to work most of the time. Additionally, the best staff jump ship to restaurants where they can maintain their income.
Fine dining is really the only place you can get away with it regularly. The employers didn't really have a choice if they want to stay open. The system is what it is, every customer who doesn't tip is giving themselves a discount at the expense of the staff which is a reasonable thing to be upset about. The only way to change the system is through regulatory legislation.
I'm not tipping and I'll be ordering twice 😈
Think of it as assertiveness training.
I'm gonna trigger that alarm and cheer.
“Cancel”
I would press "no tip" just to see if that claim is true.
drinks a cup of Yorkshire Tea
I wonder if we can find a way to either hit it multiple times, or break it so it won't stop ringing.
I would gladly trigger the alarm.
We earning our deaf badge today
The system would be fair if it was both positive and negative tips. Then at least I would consider tipping. It’s a but rude otherwise.
Omg, so many opportunities for evil:
- retrieve earplugs from purse, put them in, press the button, hand the staff a $5 cash tip and a pair of earplugs.
- loiter outside offering pairs of earplugs to anyone entering the business
- call the business, pose as a vendor so I get transferred to the manager, and play a recording of the sound.
- leave fake reviews claiming the employees are on a covert malicious compliance strike and to show solidarity everyone should push no-tip.
- before hitting the button ask to speak to the manager and push no tip while making eye contact with them.
The real problem is the employee who didn't create the policy would generally be the person subjected to any mischief so it'd lose its fun about the time the manager barred me from coming back the fourth time I no-tip stared them down.
mutes phone, proceeds.
Press "no tip" and sue them for hearing damage....
Seriously though, as a non American I only tip when the service or food was exceptionally good for the given establishment. People do however get paid a decent salary here, so tipping is optional.
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