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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 month ago
[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

False, this is a lie.

Discord is anti-libre software. We do not control it.

It bans us from proving its claims. It bans us from fixing its lies.

It fails to include a libre software license text file, like AGPL. Discord is malware, anti-libre.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting. I was able to access the linked whitepaper and repositories without trouble and the 3rd party stuff too. Do you have local config preventing you from downloading the source code to review?

While I can respect your distaste for non-libre software, you’ll need to back up the malware claim. There are real security concerns out there in common non-libre; labeling things that are not libre as malware solely because they are not libre muddies the waters and makes your message much less palatable.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Where's the rest of Discord's source code?

While it bans us from proving its claims and more, i'll never let it infect my devices.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The claim is that audio and video are E2EE. I’m not sure how you’re unable to disprove that using the linked code, audit report, and COTS debugging tools. Can you expand on that? I see a lot of FUD without anything more than “they’re not libre” which, again, doesn’t do a great job of selling your point.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Just reverse engineer me bro

And every update, every other app, all their updates too, across every device... 🚩

Should we just waste our whole lives nothing but knee deep in disassembled binaries?

How stupid and gullable does openly hostile Discord think we are?

Couldn't be me still coping and shilling trash like this.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In another post you’re actively looking at purchasing GPS systems. The satellites you’re sending info to are not available to dissect and I highly doubt the firmware of the devices you’re looking at is publicly available much less libre. Your trolling is not internally consistent so it’s clear you don’t have any clue what you’re on about. Good luck with that.

[–] GreyCat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't think you need to send info for a GPS client to work. You are just a receiver, no data sent.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This conflates software with service.

Signal's offical servers, when we don't own them, and we don't run them, we can't see inside them too.

Signal is an end-to-end encrypted libre app, so we don't need to.

here's half the source missing

just reverse me bro

that's not your server

Always the same talking points. Some people never learn.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

what the hell are you doing that you keep being banned from discord?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It bans us from modifying its source code, sharing its exact and modified copies, using it for any purpose, etc.

We do not control it, anti-libre software.

Which software license do you think Discord is distributed under?

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why put the effort into such a hostile service?

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Replied to the wrong comment?

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Responding broadly to the thread of folks talking about userScripts & add-ons. This effort would be better put to getting folks to a different protocol where client modification & alternate clients are the norm.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, some people never learn.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've been using a modified client for about 2 and a half years now without being banned.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Where's our legal right to modify and share its source code forever? We don't control it.

[–] Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

If you believe anything you write or say on discord is private. Or would ever even be encrypted, I want whatever you're smoking please.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, Discord is not a privacy preserving service in the slightest. Honestly I'm only using it because of the network effect at this point.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

That and it has full functionality in the browser. No bullshit "download the app".

[–] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Welp, better than nothing, right?

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

nah, selling messages is way easier

[–] OR3X@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey Discord, give us the ability to stream audio when sharing our screen on Linux ffs.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Vencord/Vesktop supports audio streaming on Linux and is just a generally better experience compared against the Discord official app. Free and open source.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

+1 for vesktop works great for me

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

No I'm not.

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How will they comply with the US government?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They can deliver the data that they do have, which will be encrypted. Though I doubt they were ever recording calls anyway.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

How would the US government be able to see the messages? They need to monitor for young people leaking data from the Pentagon. /s

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago
[–] mat@linux.community 1 points 1 month ago
[–] dyc3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's interesting that the threat model also includes participants. They take into account that when a user leaves, it should be impossible for them to continue listening.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

screams in Matrix

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone -3 points 1 month ago

End to end directly to ccp