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[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 97 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Getting people to pay for digital media in the era of mass piracy (Spotify, Deezer, Netflix)

Starting a taxi company by ~~ignoring~~ frauding all the regulation related to taxi operation, ( Uber)

Tons of pseudo science like energy therapy which are not much different from straight up witchcraft.

A thought also for real estate developer who buy land in high-flood-risk area, and still manage to sell the houses, these ones also should be in jail

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The first one is pretty much down to, as Gabe Newell puts it, "piracy is a service problem". Spotify came along and (initially) provided a much better service compared to pirating your music at the time. Once they created the market segment, competitors started their own streaming subscriptions. I'd also say the Google music "upload 50,000 tracks for free" got a lot of former pirates to jump.

Now the services are going through the same enshittification that most popular online services seem to be going through, we can see piracy increasing again. Someone will notice and fill the gap in providing a good service again at some point and the pendulum will swing once more

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[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Starting a taxi company by ignoring frauding all the regulation related to taxi operation, ( Uber)

TBF people also enjoyed parts of it that aren't regulation related, such as upfront cost calculation. Scamming customers is harder and even in those events, it's possible to get refunds.

[–] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 11 points 3 months ago

Yeah even in countries where Uber only works with normal taxi drivers, it's still much better than getting a cab from the street. It may have started with fraud but these apps actually provide a needed service.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With Uber, they started with ride sharing and slowly nudged its way towards being a car-for-hire business. The reason it worked was because no one really liked taxis and didn't want to defend that monopoly.

Today, cities are trying to regulate places like Airbnb to reduce their presence in major cities, but the only real hate towards Uber and Lyft has more to deal with employee pay.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The difference is that Uber's model of using an app to show you the route, give driver feedback, be able to report problems and monitor and track the driver, etc. is actually a huge improvement to both rider safety and experience compared to calling a cab company and then waiting who knows how long for someone to show up and hopefully bring you where you want to go.

Not saying that their model of gig workers, or dodging up front training is good, but they legitimately offered up a fundamentally better taxi experience than anything that came before, which I think encouraged regulators to really drag their feet on looking into them.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah yeah, lots of pseudo-medicine falls into it.

Of course water has memory.

Of couse physically abusing your kid is healthy for it.

Of course this quartz will help you.

And then you actually strike gold with this shit and years later a well-known actress is selling candles that smell like her minge. Unbelievable.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 82 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Running a conservative podcast that was more than 90% funded by RT while proclaiming a deep patriotism.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Netflix killing password sharing despite how easy piracy is. Massive increase in subscriptions

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Piracy is not as nice for average people. It requires effort many won't want to put in to discover what they want (and not in a shitty quality), and then managing and accessing that which you found takes a lot of effort as well to set up in a manner as easily accessed as a Netflix app.

Most people can't/won't bother wasting their time and effort. They'll just pay for a service for the convenience. And before people interject with their anecdotes, convenience is subjective.

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Honestly in my younger years I had the time to hunt around for the right streams, rips, subtitle files etc, but it does take time and effort. For the price of a few sandwiches or a handful of coffees I don't have to spend the time doing that anymore.

What's annoying is that it's not a single subscription anymore, it's 4-5 subscriptions which really adds up over the month.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Younger people don't know how to use computers...

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[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

I suspected Netflix to lose sub counts for two years after they enacted their 'No Account Sharing (outside the household).' policy. But it seems that they have been able to bounce back quite quickly, compared to my guess.

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Someone once made a mountain of cash selling pet rocks.

[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have an official USB pet rock I got from a thinkgeek back in the day. Has a little box with air holes and everything.

Exactly as functional as the original pet rock, but has a short USB cable attached.

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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (12 children)

All the ones where the idea was to "just start something, grow grow grow, then figure out monetization later" is wild to me.

E.g. reddit. It worked. CEO is rich, site is still online. Somehow they got investors probably, presumably.

I get not having profit. I get not having income, if it's in some prototype phase. But having no plan or idea whatsoever for how to monetize and still getting VC? Wild.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I get not having profit. I get not having income, if it’s in some prototype phase. But having no plan or idea whatsoever for how to monetize and still getting VC? Wild.

It's called "growth-first" or "growth-at-all-costs" strategy. I don't recall what video I was watching when I learned it, but it's a dying strategy for business now (IIRC). It had its rise in popularity in the late 2000s to about 2018. Think Netflix, WeWork, Uber, etc. These are huge businesses to prop up, so they (literally) bank on the idea that with a huge user base, they can sooner or later, make a profit to make it worth all of the risk.

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[–] Elextra 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Taking off the pedals and training wheels of bikes and selling them to kids.

Wish I thought of that

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For real. I've seen kids years younger than when I started pedaling scurrying around on these, and it instantly clicked why it's a much better way to learn to stay upright on two wheels.

I wish my first bike had been something like that. Training wheels stop a bike from leaning into turns, so they don't teach you anything about what it is like to ride without them.

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 3 months ago

When I was learning to ride, my dad bent mt training wheels up so the bike would still turn and the wheels would only touch if you started to fall over a fair way.

[–] Avg@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Strider wasn't the first to come up with balance bikes for kids specifically, they have been around for decades and balance bikes themselves, for a few hundred years.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Balance bikes were the OG bicycle so they have it backwards.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Fwiw these days balance bikes are considered better than training wheels for people learning to ride. Training wheels are ok if you actually need to go somewhere accompanied by an adult on a bike, but they’re terrible for learning. They don’t teach you how to steer or balance properly; a balance bike does. In fact, training wheels can teach bad habits that are difficult to unlearn.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

The original SMS version of Twitter.

Later, the name hashtags, in American English this symbol #️⃣ was ~~always~~ best known as the pound key. It was also known as an Octothorpe.

Actually I still don't understand why anyone wants to use Twitter.

[–] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

Not always, it was an octothorpe before phones

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[–] python@programming.dev 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The software company I work for is killing all legacy on-prem software in 2025 and replacing it with a modular AWS based system of single-page websites. Many customers are old-school and hesitant about anything cloud-related, but it worked out beautifully so far. The shutdown hasn't happened yet tho, so we'll see how many lawsuits roll in when it does lol

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, as the saying goes, nobody was ever fired for running up an astronomical AWS bill.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 15 points 3 months ago

I’ve seen the exact opposite happen a couple of times: β€œHow the fuck did you not realise you were spending 70 grand in a month?!”

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 24 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Food delivery.

I never imagined a delivery service for restaurants with drive-thru would take off .

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I kinda get it, if you want takeout food and you can't or won't drive it could be convenient. But it's just so expensive.

[–] zante@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 months ago

I realised that it was my bias as car owner.

A good lesson about how all can have blind spots.

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[–] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Linktree. It's just links on a page. How do you get people to pay a monthly subscription for that?

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Folks literally have no conept anymore that you can just slap HTML on a page. & with the advent of needing TLS, it starts to become more technical than a lot of folks want to bother learning & maintain versus the days of raw FTP uploads.

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[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Roblox. If you were there in the beginning then you know how empty it was. Now, that’s mostly what my son plays to what just make the most money/things? I don’t get it myself (I’m old, lol).

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They knew what they were doing. They knew that Minecraft needed a strong competitor in the video game market, and bet big on the 'long game.'

Noticing that you are a parent of a person who plays Roblox, I feel obligated to share two investigative videos about Roblox Corporation practices or lack thereof, the exploitive practices they have to paying third-party in-game content "developers" (that are often kids/tweens/teens), and the issues Roblox have had with pedophiles/adults grooming young people/kidnappings.

The following videos are from People Make Games on Youtube.

Investigation: How Roblox Is Exploiting Young Game Developers

Roblox Pressured Us to Delete Our Video. So We Dug Deeper.

[Just so we are clear, I am not telling you how to parent your son or person. I am just informing you to the best of my ability, about the issues that have arisen on and off Roblox.]

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Making a social network where people can send pictures to each other, then selling it to a big corporation for billions.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 3 months ago

Business Model is data mining... But back then it was poorly understood or believed not possible by the mainstream...

Joke is on us 🀑

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Buying rights to provide telecom service to an area and not actually providing service.

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wait that's a thing? In TV broadcasting?

I've heard of how Comcast Did New York state dirty many years ago. IIRC, they walked away with nearly half a billion dollars, which I believe was about 2/3 of all the money the state had given them to connect small towns and clusters of rural communities to DSL internet.>

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Buying massive amounts of primetime commercial time to sell useless products by screaming their name over and over in the ad.

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I never thought WeWork would succeed. Reasons:

  • the library was free to work at
  • they leased the property and then subleased it after rebuilding the inside
  • they offered free drinks, snacks, some places had gyms and showers too.
  • expanded very quickly and in LA had locations within a block of another.

They are still around. It's still around the same price to rent a desk for the day. But Regus, the actual property owner has their own desk rental service too.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Makes sense to me. Open office designs SUCK. I share an office with 2 other people and I’m much, much more productive in my home office with 3 kids in the house because I can shut my door, be alone with my thoughts, and be productive.

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