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I mean, third time’s the charm……. Right? 😳
Eh. Germany weren't the colossal dickheads in WWI that they were in WWII. Frankly most of Europe had a part to play in sparking the first one.
WW1 was just a massive dick measuring contest.
A bunch of inbred royal fucks beefing over turf.
Which aptly describes basically every war in European history, honestly.
Kaiser Wilhelm was:
Expansionist and irredentist
Fervently anti-democracy
Rabidly anti-semitic
Trying to secure overseas colonies to exploit for resources
The Third Reich was the Second Reich without a noble class to fuck things up with inbreeding. It's hardly surprising, a culture can't change completely in the span of a couple decades.
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As long as the trains running time...
This time, the populists want to abolish trains.
Funny thing being, the nazis weren't good at running the infrastructure.
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Mom, can we get Nazis?
No we have Nazis at home.
I'd much rather have the idiot kind of nazis than the 1930s kind.
How the hell do you think it starts‽ In the 20s with complete idiot nazis
That last time it started by Germany losing WW1 badly and getting a bit of shit handed to them. I don't think anything comparable is happening right now. Germany is a stable liberal democracy with stable instutitions.
Germany is a stable liberal democracy with stable instutitions.
For now.
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Our "Verfassungsschutz": "Watch out! They plan to overthrow the current system!!"
AfD voter: "Yeah, but the migrants"
I'd go even further. The AfD threatens the current (democratic) system. Most AfD voters vote for them for this exact reason. They want to "enact revenge" on a system they feel left behind by IMO.
"democracy doesn't let me be racist enough, we should get rid of it"
~average AfD voter
"Them rich folks of the AfD keep telling me that democracy made me poor and jobless. They are also telling me that they'll bring back jobs, by removing all them immigrants. Guess I'll vote for them."
Who should I vote for after unhinged leoliberal capitalism made my life worse?
- Socialists: Vote for me, so I can tax the rich and spend money on programs to help workers like you
- Fascist: Vote for me, I promise to deport some brown people (but in reality I will just cut the taxes of rich people and be friendly with Russia)
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Just proves again that we should deport AfD voters instead
I'm really worried that the Verfassungsschutz talks and talks about the dangers the AfD poses, but they seemingly won't actually do anything and I suspect by now it's too late to prohibit them.
Yeah, it sucks. A party can't be forbidden in Germany if it's not "relevant enough"... But when they are relevant, it might be too late.
They have been "relevant enough" for a very long time now.
Yeah, but the Verfassungsschutz was sabotaged by Maaßen half of the time.
And AFD won't "send migrants back" because that would remove their favorite Boogeyman. Expect don't symbolic tinkering and not that much more, otherwise they have to start all over again with another minority to blame. It won't improve these people's economic situation. EU exit and austerity is back on the menu with AFD.
People in the comments attacking AfD voters as racists and rightly. However, no one wakes up one day and decide to be a racist from now on. There are reasons why these extremists gain political support and they draw it from a pool of people of which some wouldn't even consider voting for them a few years ago. This shift reflects a social sentiment that everyone seems to be ignoring.
No one is ignoring the global sentiment. We get it, capitalists are fucking everything to squeeze every cent out of us and a few idiots get conned into blaming brown people instead.
Sooo they turn into racist slowly? That's still not cool.
Fair point, I think we know it, just our politicians keep ignoring it. The elites backing moderate governments would rather see fascists on the throne, than to have a democratic, true leftist government.
Socialism endangers capitalism, fascism doesn’t.
The solution is definitely not ridicule and mocking, but it’s also not appeasing fascists. Anybody who wants to destroy democracy, has no place in a democracy. In the short term, we should ensure fascist don’t get to power by whatever means necessary, and in mid-/long term, we should enact social changes that decrease the support of these radicals.
Tbh I’m not sure this is possible peacefully (or at all), and maybe another world war will happen - though not because of Germany, more likely China/Rusia, maybe US if things go bad.
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So, no one bothers to learn lessons from history any more...? Hmmm.
Issue is, they just change a few bits around to fool the people that are uneducated about the subject. I'm from Hungary, and one history teacher of mine taught me that Nazis did things for the sake of being evil, one other said "it was a punishment for the Jews killing Jesus". Once you associate bigotry with being evil, any dumb rationale can make it look not evil in the eyes of these people.
it was a punishment for the Jews killing Jesus
This is peak logic. Glorify Jesus becasue "he died for our sins" but demonize Jews for killing him... Bitch, if they didn't kill him you lack key aspect of your religion!
They think history is based and also lies and also rad as hell and should definitely be repeated. But that bad mustache man should win this time.
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It can't be as bad as it sounds, right?
Right?
Fuck.
They probably aren’t literally Hitler. But there is a lot of damage and awful shit they can do in between reasonable and Hitler. And they are much further towards the latter than anyone should be comfortable with.
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Here is the (non final) result for anyone to lazy to check themselves:
Scheiße
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Hicks exist in every country.
Sometimes they drive fancy cars.
Hicks exist in every country. They don't always exist in the form of a "bring back the policies that destroyed our country the last time around" political party though.
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Lets see how keen Germany is on stopping fascism in its borders again or if they’ll ooh and ahh as they wait for the state to talk about discussing doing something.
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