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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 214 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's like when Sideshow Bob was running for Mayor and used ads denouncing Mayor Quimby for letting crooks like Sideshow Bob out of jail.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 99 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Vance isn’t nearly as intelligent as Bob. But I did laugh at the comparison.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Vance is a Yale grad and a best selling author. It's a good example of imposter syndrome; he's better than Trump in any possible way, but lacks the intestinal fortitude to be anything but a lickspittle.

A lot of the GOP leadership is not stupid. Some of them are very intelligent.They're just self-serving and morally bankrupt.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hillbilly Elegy was a NY Times bestseller.

You can hate on the guy, but facts are facts.

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Except that list gets manipulated all the time. It's a known practice to order shit tons of your own book, get on the list for a week, and hand them out (or resell them) later.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Ok, I accept that, but it inevitably leads to the next question of "what metric would you accept to call oneself a bestselling authour?"

[–] maniclucky@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

By definition, bestselling is what it is. The question is "does bestselling mean they're a good author?" And that's what we have reviews for.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 3 points 3 months ago

Probably something better than "it sold more than 1000 copies in a week". Especially when the author can indirectly buy all those copies with not that much money, just to claim the best selling title

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

It just means it sold a number of copies, there is zero judgement on the content. Sometimes a campaign will launder money directly to a candidate by purchasing many copies of that candidate's book to give away. It is somehow legal.

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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hillbilly Elegy was a NY Times bestseller.

Which book isn't?

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[–] eatthecake@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

TBH, I think a lickspittle probably needs quite a bit of intestinal fortitude

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 156 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"That's different! They're white!" -his inner monologue

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago

He immediately whataboutism'd BLM protests, so... yeah it was outer monologue too.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 100 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that hypocrisy doesn't burn them. Logic doesn't matter.

You'll find conservative women against abortion who had an abortion, because "for them it was different".

You'll find them yapping about taxes and "big crime families" but when trump does it "he's just smart and using the system like everyone else".

You'll find them fed up with "giving away free stuff", when they all do sovcit shit and dodge taxes because "fuck biden or wtv".

They have upper class money, but for them it's different, "they aren't rich" and "daddy technically didn't even help".

Theyre all losers who think all their problems are caused by other people.

[–] Laser@feddit.org 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You'll find conservative women against abortion who had an abortion, because "for them it was different".

My favorite article was about some privileged women who were shocked when they found out that when abortion becomes illegal, they can't have abortions anymore.

Because for them, they were called "terminations". I couldn't make this up.

And then they had the gall to proclaim that they would have been the ideal people to show the importance of the matter. Of course, a matter is unimportant until it affects you, the privileged one.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/27/us/abortion-women-tfmr.html

Zero empathy or reflection. Kind of impressive.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago

Pleasantly surprising to actually press even that hard during an interview. Interviews should be forcing candidates to explain themselves.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can we get the actual clip?

[–] Dantpool@kbin.melroy.org 70 points 3 months ago (4 children)

CNN Post with video. Quote starts at 1:07 mark

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I've never heard this guy talk so hearing his voice...

I mean, I'm not saying that I've ever talked to a couch fucker but....yeah, the voice sort of says couch fucker.

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There’s a reason that rumor spread so effectively

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The author of the tweet never even tried to claim it was true, either. When the couch thing blew up, they even specifically said that it was just a joke. You’re exactly right, though. There’s just something about Vance that makes it seem believable.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Well, if you've read any of his Hillbilly Elegy, it fits. He does this weird oscillation where he talks about his humble roots, and then is incredibly condescending towards anyone in a similar situation.

Apparently he's better than that now.

He could talk about how he was so desperate he fucked his couch. But then, once he had money, he was able to attract an actual woman. He still occasionally fucks a couch, just for nostalgia, but all those other people who are still fucking couches are sad and gross.

It would blend right in.

[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 16 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Lets call it what it is. He fucks underage couches. That makes him a rapist. He's a couch rapist.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He read of therapist couches and messed up the spaces in the words

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Is he an analrapist?

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Age of consent or not, I've never heard a couch talk, let alone consent.

It doesn't matter the type of material or the designer brand the couch is either, the couch isn't "dressed like it's asking for it." Unless it's enthusiastic affirmation, it's rape.

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I've never asked so I can't say for sure that it's not impossible, but I've personally never heard a couch speak. Therefore, I'm not sure any couch is capable of consent. Ergo, all couch fucking is couch rape.

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[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Vance's eyes look like the soul has vacated his body long ago

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

"well, you know... That happened three, ehh four years ago!"

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[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The little couch fucking shit weasel. He had an answer and it wasn’t half bad. Then he redirected to his false equivalency bullshit.

[–] Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's the worst part, I agree with his point that we shouldn't have blanket prosecutions...just like we shouldn't have blanket pardons.

I think a good followup would have been "Do you believe it is also possible there are BLM protestors who likewise had the book thrown at them?" Bring it back to the question of why they think their "protest" is more acceptable than the BLM protests.

But it's weird, that didn't feel like a modern Republican interview exchange to me. Yeah he's doing the soundbites but he's actually responding with...logic rather than feelings? Or at least as close to logic as a Republican candidate can get these days.

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[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

The interview equivalent of stepping on a rake.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Is that crickets I hear? Heh wimp womb Vancey Pants.

Remember: they choose to go on CNN et al

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