About time the Dems had some charismatic candidates who are willing to push back against the bullying of Republicans instead of taking the high road.
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Thank God. Finally sounds like they believe in themselves which gives other people a reason to believe in them. Finally fighting.
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I think a lot of things started to go wrong right after Hilary said "When they go low, we go high".
Back then they were labouring under the assumption that the Republican Party (and voters) actually had a sense of shame; that if you stick to the "political" fights rather than throwing some shade, you'll eventually come out on top.
Now they (finally) know better. You gotta throw some shade in with that policy, and if you can make the shade humorous, all the better. Because the only thing Trump cares about is being seen as 'strong', and that's why this whole 'weird' thing is working as well as it has.
It was Michelle Obama who coined that, but you're right otherwise.
Now they (finally) know better.
I kind of doubt Clinton and Biden approve of this shift and still think taking the high road is the right way. Biden is still taking the high road!
And that's why they lost; and would have lost again.
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Basically couldn't have come any later really. They're already coming out the gates scrabbling with just 3 months and change until voting starts.
Only having them campaign for a few months is refreshing. I'd love to see it happen more often.
Plus it minimized fascist election fuckery...it's not zero and we need people watching electors that think they can lie... Trying to subvert the will of the voters should be considered treason and treated as such legally.
America is one of the only countries with such a long election cycle. Up here in Canada it's much shorter thankfully. Get it over with and let people get on with their lives.
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Not that I ascribe this to strategy, but I wonder if this will work in their favor. The last minute change of jockey has been dominating the news since it happened, and pushing Trump's ridiculous things to the side. This ticket will have huge and new name recognition in voters' minds, and a lot less time to get mud to stick
I think it will definitely work in their favor, and I hope it kicks off a trend towards a shorter election season, but the corporate media will resist that.
Wow, no wonder republicans are pissed off.
They have old man tiny hands and the couchfucker to try to counter these guys.
Kamala + Walz? The GOP is screwed.
… if normal people vote.
I can't stop thinking about how ingenius the couch joke is. The reference is obvious if you know the meme but oblique enough to maintain plausible deniability, but it doesn't matter because guess what, Republicans can't even complain about this without giving further airtime to the ridiculous meme itself. It is a serrated takedown.
I'm out of the loop on that one. Can you explain it to those of us who missed it, please?
The Internet is memeing about Vance being a couch fucker. He tried to refute it by saying he never had sex with a couch to completion, which obviously was a self own.
Walz said yesterday that he's happy to debate Vance, if Vance can get his ass off the couch.
Just so you're aware that refutation was also spoofed.
Whole situation remains funny af though. And Walz is adept at twisting the knife.
he never had sex with a couch to completion
Uhmmm... what? Why would he say that? Was there actually some truth to the claim that he had sex with a couch, or what?
None. He just did a really bad job refuting it. Honestly, it's such a goofy meme that most adults would just ignore it, but these are Republicans we're talking about. It's incredibly easy to distract them with frivolous stuff.
Even better, there was some website explaining and refuting it all, but then it was taken down lol.
Even better it was the bastion of objective Journalism the Associated Press (AP). They took it down because they can't prove he didn't fuck a couch.
Edit - I love this because it's the same as the old "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a girl in 1990?". He's never come out to say he didn't.
That's because Beck, while being a faux emotional cryptofascist shit bird, wasn't a fucking moron and knew that the only way to stop someone JAQing off is to ignore them. Only partially because JAQing off was his primary MO.
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Yeah, they couldn't prove that Vance never fucked a couch, just that he didn't say he did in a book. But no one was quoting the book anyways, not after the meme started.
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i wonder if he has a license to throw those haymakers.
He does. It's a license to thrill.
I was gonna say I wish she'd chosen someone younger since she herself is much younger than Trump or Biden and that's a decent selling point in the current state of affairs
And then I looked it up and he's only a year older than her. The passage of time really hasn't affected them equally.
Black don't crack
He was also a school teacher for 20 years, so that's aged him 10 years more, at least.
He said something like, "You don't supervise the lunch room for 19 years and come out with a full head of hair."
This is hilarious and very similar to a joke my wife (a high-school teacher) made. It’s got to be a common takeaway for people who know.
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Walz became the nation's Dad as he entered the national political stage. When I think of all the lions that came from that part of the country, he is definitely on the list.
Super stoked, and everything I am reading and seeing of him only makes me more excited.
It's a shame he's a teetotaler now, he has the highest "I could have a beer with him" score of any candidate I've ever seen.
He can just be the "I could have a root beer with him" candidate then.
Yeah. Actually he seems like he'd be totally okay with you having a beer
Learn to hang out with people without alcohol involved instead of treating their choice to not drink as a problem.
It was a reference to the type of appeal that the media made a big deal about George W. Bush having. Learn to let a joke go by without seizing the opportunity to talk down to someone.
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I'd have a nonalcoholic beer with him any time!
They actually make a lot of REALLY tasty ones now, which makes my life as a beer-loving ex-drinker a LOT easier when there's a football game on, for example 😁
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I'd have rated Al Franken higher but he's pretty much left politics for good at this point.
He runs a weekly political podcast at least
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