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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok, I hate the orange Cheeto as much as the next rational person, but this seems like grasping at correlation to me. There are thousands of despicable things he's said and done to choose from.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The study is a lot more than just "he said a thing and this also happened".

There was a definable and clear impact to people of color, specifically following his presidency, the policies enacted, etc.

I'd recommend reading the study itself, which can be found here:

https://read.dukeupress.edu/demography/article-pdf/doi/10.1215/00703370-11477581/2129061/11477581.pdf

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Thank you for the link to the study itself!

[–] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The study itself highlights that this is a correlation, not evidence of direct causation. Still, evidence of a correlation with worsened outcomes for newborns is concerning in itself.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Of course it's a correlation.

It's also way more than "he said a thing, and this other thing also happened" as the person I replied to suggested.

[–] Don_Dickle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How in the hell is this health related when it is pure speculation?

[–] cashmaggot@piefed.social 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My two cents, although this is just coming from my brain bin, is that many folk's benefits were cut as social services were tailed back. When at risk communities, who already lack a lot of the everyday resources of middle class+ ares (which are predominantly white), lose even more of their resources it affects things - like health. To have healthy children, you've got to eat. A lot of people I knew had their stamps reduced or removed, especially senior citizens. I mean I would see seniors begging on street corners just to live. But not just that, a lot of lower class people are stressed. They're in survival mode. Add to that multi-layered race issues (Are you "white" enough to be hired? How far are you from the money? Who depends on you? What plates do you keep spinning and what plates do you drop? Etc., etc., etc. - micro-aggressions. Outright aggression-aggresions.) and health issues that tend to be associated with certain areas, ethnicities and classes - you've got a powder keg of issues that absolutely can lead to more premies.

*Mind you, I agree that they could have been more focused in their findings. Take any of those up there that could be more quantifiable and then run with it. They do note though that bigots do affect health. And bigots came out in spades after Trump got elected. And like idiots smashed people up, and walked around holding freakin' tiki torches. Like, what?

*p.p.s. - you're really seeing this on a large scale right now - all across the class lines. Because a lot of people are really not making it right now. And you've got the small set of folks who are just out here living life. And a slew of people living in active terror that the world is burning all around them because they are constantly panicking to pay the bills, eat two meals a day, and just mentally be okay.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Uhh did y’all just forget that COVID also happened at the same time?