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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 203 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I should fuckin well hope so

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 133 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Wait until veterans learn that they want to take away their healthcare and disability pay in order to give tax cuts to the rich. This is not hyperbole, that's literally one of the ways they intend to save money. Also making it so you can get your pension or VA disability, but not both.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

i bet they'll still vote republican

UPDATE: watch the apologists try to say that it's not that bad below. lol

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Bud, we already vote blue. Yeah there's some dumbasses out there voting for Trump but he did something no Democrat has been able to do in the modern era. He got the military to vote blue in 2020.

The Democrats have had trouble getting our VA stuff figured out but we're well aware the Republicans want us to actually just die in an alley somewhere.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m glad that the wannabe dictator has pissed y’all off. Sorry about how he fucked y’all over, but it’s best that y’all don’t like him

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A lot of red voting trade workers need to understand how anti-union and anti-workers rights it is. And wave goodbye to overtime.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

Oh we know. That shit went through the grapevine faster than a bad southern idiom.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

I'm a Red Blooded Christ Loving Veteran and I'm TOTALLY OK WITH THAT as long as TRANS KIDS DIE TOO! #SaveTheChildren!

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 32 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It’s just about time for a MASSIVE march on Washington. These clowns are way too comfortable.

The Supreme Court is out of hand with zero pushback.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Hate to say it, but protests and marches do jack shit these days in terms of pressuring our leaders.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

If there were anything approaching a general strike they would panic. They just don't give a shit when it's several thousand people on a weekend in NYC with their striking permits. Why would they? That's a small parade. St. Patrick's Day is a larger disruption for the city.

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 111 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] nifty@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Calling them punks is an insult to punks, they’re just scum

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Nazi Punks are neo-nazis in the punk scene. They are an insult to the scene, so people would say this before they punched a Nazi punk in the face.

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 99 points 3 months ago (4 children)

No one wants to be a part of your fascist religious cult! Humans want freedom, not oppression.

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[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 89 points 3 months ago

I think its funny that the more shit like this they push on me the further away from their ideologies I want to be. Vote blue and be done with leadership provided by conservatives, they only want to control us and I'm sick of it

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 88 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Because every page is insane bullshit. Here's one I saw a post about and looked up, where they want to just straight up fire everyone in the Treasury Department who's participated in a DEI initiative:

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 46 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure that these idiots who wrote this will only be happy once everyone in this country is miserable and dead. They hate everything about this country.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The issue is that people don’t appreciate that DEI etc. are not about race per se, but about the problems and conflicts which happened (and still do) because people have different skin colors.

You cannot create ideology based on racial supremacy, and then complain when other people want to block degenerates like you from acting on that ideology.

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[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 87 points 3 months ago

US public rapidly sours on turning US into fundamentalist shithole

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

When the public pays any attention to conservative policy.

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 months ago

That's the issue is most people don't even do the most basic level of research, they just tune in to whatever news network they've listened to for their life, and do whatever they say, and its pathetic.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 65 points 3 months ago

cuz a christian theocracy regime plan doesn't sound like much fun

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago (3 children)

When was the public ever in favor of this?

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Never was. Their goal was to sneak it past the voters, that's why they keep lying about what's in it and concealing Trump's connection to it.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 17 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Sneaking it past the voters by...

Checks notes

...publishing the entire agenda on Project2025.org.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This isn't a one and done thing. P2025 is the Heritage foundation, long time conservative economic think tank funded by the Kochs. They're pushing this agenda and it doesn't matter who knows since this is a plan to seize power. They put out these demented sounding policy agenda and they stick to the plan, more or less, in working toward. Trying out different wordings, spamming out policy proposals and voting agenda items like the ones in this plan; copy pasted from existing bills written for other States. Look at how trans legislation is going in this country.

In the media they'll try out different framings of these issues, start bringing in grifters in the media to frame these issues "creatively" to the public. Most of these framings will be terrible, awful, but one will catch on and then it becomes part of public consciousness almost over night.

And they're doing this for all of these issues. People sometimes say that the capitalist class only cares about the next quarter, but these think tanks funded by the capitalist class, are able to look ahead decades. A good example of this is the Powell memo, written in the 70s by the chamber of commerce. Compared to when it was written they've gotten maybe 85% of what they asked for, and the mechanisms to get that last fraction of whatever is left of the US labor movement have been working and are "interpreted" into law by our conservative supreme court and the closely-linked Federalist Society.

Project 2025 gets rejected by a mostly ambivalent voting base. Big defeat, Democrats patting each other on the back. But the machine keeps working for decades as long as there's funding coming from major donors; unless it gets completely defeated, as in the people responsible are put on trial, Nuremberg style.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This seems like a good place to link Robert Evans BTB episode: "How Conservatism Won" in which "Robert sits down with David Bell to discuss how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all)." The tl;dr is basically the rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set to work to undo everything he did.

The above commenter has nailed it, it's not even a conspiracy, it's all easily verifiable. These people do not share our American values. They do not value freedoms (speech, press, religion, etc) the same way that many of us do. They want a return to the gilded age with them as the robber barons and gentry and everyone else as a permanent, toiling underclass.

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[–] uienia@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago

At no point in time. But it seems the public was largely ignorant, and thus apathetic, of it. The more knowledge, the more resistance.

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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tie that shit to Trump and his weasel running mate. He is already trying to back away from it.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago

No shit, the vast majority of the public hates republican policy. Most people are too lazy to vote or vote against their best interests because of stupid reasons like racism or wanting to hurt others.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago

Because it fucken sucks and its plain to see even through the legalese.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (3 children)

How am I going to lock down my eighteen year old trad wife now?

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Eighteen? Have you SEEN how hard they push to drop the age of consent?!

To the Gilead crowd, if she's not on her 2nd child by 18 then they send the council around to find out why.

[–] raef@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think states with 18 is already a minority

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago

You misspelled fourteen.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (6 children)

My kids are all IVF. We spent a lot of money on that. Money comes from countless work hours. On the sentimental side, it was a horrible rollercoaster ride of having to follow an injection schedule, going to the doc for check-ups or for removing eggs or for jacking off into a cup right next to the doctor's office. Lots of embarrassing moments. My kids are awesome and I would do it all over again. Fuck these project 2025 assholes. If I want to be gay and get IVF done, I will. I don't need to ask others for permission or legality. That's what freedom is about. That's what American is about.

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[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

i bet hexabear mods have the proj2025 tattoo.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Nah, those guys want an entirely different flavor of authoritarian regime.

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[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Was it actually popular? No one I know of even has heard of it.

Even Trump had the awareness to first implicitly write off Project 2025 by having these Black Americans For Trump meetings that no one showed up for - not even him). When that [obviously] didn't work he then explicitly said he wasn't part of this nonsense.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but a bunch of people from his administration were involved in writing it, including Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller his deportation and immigration guy.

Project 2025 is focused on replacing public servants, with 'Trump Loyalists"... Such terms associated with Trump are laced throughout the document, showing up over 300 times... And JD Vance has also talked about this idea.

... Clarence Thomas has based his whole career on this idea, which he calls "Destroying the Administrative State", and Trump has always used the phrase "draining the swamp" and "destroying the deep state". It's also very much like his Fake electors plot that he was already involved with last election.

The whole idea behind Project 2025 is that a bunch of the legal documents to create a dictatorship (otherwise called "unitary executive theory") - where the powers of the executive branch would be greatly expanded - have already been written up, and Trump just needs to sign them on day one. After that, his unique powers would be legal.

....and he keeps saying "I'll only be a dictator on day one". Which seems to be in line with the Project 2025 plan.

Project 2025 was written by the Heritage Foundation, who often writes and recycles these plans. They wrote one for Reagan, which is why he cut the corporate tax rate, and one for bush suggesting invading Kuwait. So they often get what they want.

In 2018, they bragged on their website that two thirds of the previous "Mandate for Leadership" they wrote for Trump had been passed into law. So The Heritage Foundation is no small operation. They're a large part of how GOP candidates adopt a policy agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025 for details.

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Thank you for all of this info. I didn't reliaze this Heritage Foundation is so old. Still, it really does feel like the same old Regean era stuff they always put out. I guess that's the reason why the alarm isn't going on in many people's heads.

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