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I often daydream about how society would be if we were not forced by society to pigeon hole ourselves into a specialized career for maximizing the profits of capitalists, and sell most of our time for it.

The idea of creating an entire identity for you around your "career" and only specializing in one thing would be ridiculous in another universe. Humans have so much natural potential for breadth, but that is just not compatible with capitalism.

This is evident with how most people develop "hobbies" outside of work, like wood working, gardening, electronics, music, etc. This idea of separating "hobbies" and the thing we do most of our lives (work) is ridiculous.

Here's how my world could be different if I owned my time and dedicated it to the benefit of my own and my community instead of capitalists:

  • more reading, learning and excusing knowledge with others.
  • learn more handy work, like plumbing and wood working. I love customizing my own home!
  • more gardening
  • participate in the transportation system (picking up shifts to drive a bus for example)
  • become a tour guide for my city
  • cook and bake for my neighbors
  • academic research
  • open source software (and non-software) contributions
  • pick up shifts at a cafΓ© and make coffee, tea and smoothies for people
  • pick up shifts to clean up public spaces, such as parks or my own neighborhood
  • participate in more than one "professions". I studied one type of engineering but work in a completely different engineering. This already proves I can do both, so why not do both and others?

Humans do not like the same thing over and over every day. It's unnatural. But somehow we revolve our whole livelihood around if.

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[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Let's not be confused here. Specialization is what allows for free time. If everyone has to farm and hunt, that's all you'd do. Specialization is a good thing for humanity and diverse institutions and industries to arise.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, OPs got the spirit but misses the point. We are being pressured to sell our time at a minimum of 40 hours every week. It's thanks to specialization (and the technology that developed from it) that this quantity of of time is grossly over-allocated. Trade and travel allowed people to create better products in less time, so people were no longer very literally working to live, day-in, day-out. Unfortunately wages are kept low, wealth is kept centralized and culture continues to place value on excess so that we're continually convinced that we "have" to work as many hours as we can find.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 3 points 1 year ago

I don't understand what you think I missed. When I said "specialization", I meant the idea of just doing one thing and one thing only as a "career". This doesn't mean we shouldn't specialize or that people won't. But if I specialize in construction labor, with the extra time awarded to me I could also participate in design if I wanted.

[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but if we only have to work on our specializations for 16 hours a week each instead of 40+, we would have a lot more time for other good stuff, whether it's personal development, supporting other specialists, or just hanging out.

[–] Rescuer6394@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

i've worked for 20h/w and 40h/w. i think 30/32 is a good balance

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I'd still be a programmer. I'd work on open source projects 100% of the time. It's something I love to do.

Man's got to eat though. I still work in an area that makes the world slightly less shitty though, so it's not all bad.

[–] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would contribute to any activity that would ensure capitalism wouldn't start existing.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would allow that isn't communism, but a "post-scarcity" society, much like Star Trek TNG. A lot of what we take for granted can only happen thanks to the commercial logistics of fucktons of materials going around.

I'd devote more time into programming, performance optimization, processor architecture and computer graphics. These things are still "magic" to me and there aren't many resources, especially on the "bare metal" graphics part of most recent parts. Once I figured it out enough to feel confident in passing that knowledge around, I would do that in english and portuguese

One thing that I'm already doing thanks to my job giving me a decent salary for only 20h of work is my own game project. Something that I'll probably end up selling, but I'll probably be the first to release a pirate/free version of it, too.

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[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be that guy that makes all those useless inventions, except they'd be incredibly useful to me and like 2 other people.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago

That's how many great inventions benefitting the entire world happened :)

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I would do loads of degrees. History, English, Psychology, Politics, Spanish, etc. Having the brain space to focus on learning would be amazing. I did my masters part time while working full time and it was a nightmare. Glad I did it but I couldn't do my best as I was bogged down in work stuff.

I would also like to learn more languages. I do a bit of Spanish and Danish when I can but I rarely have the mental energy after work.

Travel too. Maybe write a book.

[–] coltorl@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans do not like the same thing over and over every day.

Speak for yourself, I like routine and being rewarded for working hard.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you really get rewarded for working hard? Every time I've gone above and beyond for my job it becomes and expectation with no increase in pay. There is no reward for us "no skill" jobs that somehow are the very foundation of this god forsaken societal system we uphold.

[–] coltorl@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve left jobs when I don’t get rewarded for hard work. Thankfully we live in a free market that allows me to also freely choose my employer and occupation.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

freely choose my employer and occupation.

As long as you meet the dozens of credentials to work for a place, as well as the 5 to 10 hidden ones they don't tell you about in the job listing or the interview.

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[–] Plibbert@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Imma be honest I have no idea. I might legit just sit here and be a leech on society playing video games and watching shows. But I'd like to imagine I would go back to school and try and do freelance repair/maintenance for various things. I just honestly don't know if I'd do enough to consider it a fair contribution to society.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'd be writing a lot more music

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I would travel or wander a lot more. Not in an instagram backpacker kind of way, just in a dawdle from town to town road trippy kind of way.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Im fortunate. I love my career. I've been doing since I was 12 what I do for a living now at 39. I'd still do what I do if income were a non-issue.

With that being said, I'd probably only do it three days/week or so, being able to pick a more realistic balance between productivity and burnout would be great. I'd also spend that time making something I want, for me, rather than doing what I'm told. I feel like that's significant here as well.

[–] spiderjuzce@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I would write and draw more. There's so many stories I wanna make. I might even take up some other medium like animation or something physical like sculpture or architecture. It would be fun to design spaces that don't need to have the soul sucked out of them to appear "mature" or "professional"

I feel like the fear of not making profits and not surviving pressures me into watering down everything I do so it's appealing to someone else. That's why art is strictly a hobby for me and not a career I wanna pursue

[–] sculd@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Reading. I have lots of books I want to read but not enough time / energy to do so.

[–] cityboundforest@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I would, in no certain order:

  • Work at a coffee shop part time making coffee for people. Preferably a locally owned shop, but it wouldn't matter too much if not.
  • Work as a bartender similarly as above
  • Potentially garden if I have the time and interest for it
  • Create more YouTube videos
  • Write, record, and release more music
  • Learn to paint
  • Get a film camera and take photos with it
  • Contribute to FLOSS projects
  • Finally make that D&D table that doubles as a dining table that I've been wanting to make for a few months now
  • Actually follow through on learning my several languages I'm working on learning
  • Become an interpreter (probably in ASL)
  • Develop video games
  • Create more art in general
  • Do research on how art and society mingle together and interact
[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I like my job. It's not a hobby, but it also ensures I don't burn out in my hobbies, which happened when I initially tried to make a hobby my job.

[–] Sarazil@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I run a goth night once every other month.
I visit friends quite often whenever I want to.
I get up and start my day when I feel like it.
I play with code and build web toys.
I'm a freelance IT guy. I could, if I wanted to, earn a lot more than I do, but my time is worth more than money. It is possible to do, even in this world where everyone is told that you need a 'career' and to work for a company, although a lot more work is needed to freeing other careers from the obligation of the grind.
Don't give up hope, unionise, demand respect, ~~buy a guillotine,~~ and keep an eye out for a way to get what you need and to contribute to society or your community without signing your life away.

(Yes, some people will never get the opportunity. And that, frankly, pisses me off no end. But don't lose hope until you're dead.)

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