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[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, this can be a generational cultural difference.

I mourned the death of my grandfather three separate times when my mother texted me "please call". Each time when I called back I learned something different:

  1. We had to change our lunch plans.
  2. There was an alarming local news article about driving conditions.
  3. My grandfather had died.
[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

If these were all in the same day that's quite the series of events

[–] Urbanfox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last time my dad called was 16 years ago when my mum was bleeding out after surgery and we didn't know if she was going to make it.

Other than that, it's WhatsApp messages, and they're usually about the dog.

I would 100% think someone had died if my dad called.

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[–] snor10@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago (19 children)

???

Why would she react like that to a phonecall?

[–] Royal_Bitch_Pudding@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Young people don't call unless it's serious business.

Why she reacted like that while also knowing her dad still calls people? No idea

[–] WaltJRimmer@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Not just young people. I've seen this kind of behavior in surprisingly old people such as Gen X and even Baby Boomers, but I've seen it in a LOT of millennials, the youngest of whom are now in their early thirties and the oldest are in their forties.

[–] Psyduck_world@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not just young people. I am 48, and if I get a call from my mom I would’ve thought something happened to my dad.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yep. Basically any generation that grew up with texting and chat kinda leans this way... so millennials and younger. But also some gen x.

Phone calls are for things that can't wait and need the other person to drop what they're doing, and things urgent like that tend to be medical or work stuff. Or things time sensitive in another way.

Demanding the other person stop what they're doing to attend to you immediately is considered kinda rude for minor topics when such an easy and less pushy alternative is available.

[–] mr_sifl@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yep same. I text and Snapchat with my mom daily. If she calls, shit went down.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because phonecalls are reserved for when you immediately with no delay need someone.

Asking about a show is not one of those cases.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Or just want to talk to someone? Why are we simultaneously normalizing anti-social behavior and wondering why the young people are so unhappy?

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not text 'wanna talk sometime'? A call demands an immediate response, so reserve it for things that demand immediate responses.

[–] LaurelRerun@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No it doesn't. Just don't pick up the phone. If it's important they'll text you to pick up the phone. There's a reason the terms "phone tag" and "screening calls" exist.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But you don't know the relative importance of what they're telling vs what you're doing. A text gives more information than just seeing your receiving a call.

[–] Amazed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That’s why people leave voicemails… you leave a verbal note of why you’re calling. And if the receiver prefers to read a text about it, several services transcribe voicemails automatically good enough to get the general gist. Or they can listen to them.

The point is that people usually don’t set out to ruin your day or misbehave, and you cannot control other people’s experience, expectations and preferences, only your own. So it’s on you to know yourself well enough to manage your boundaries appropriately with technology/tools, and possibly communication, and not to blame other people for “missteps”. When what they are doing is likely perfectly within the realm of reason to them.

Especially if they have a disability and calls are easier for them. If you have the disability, you can communicate your preferences but don’t expect people to know immediately. Set up your tech accordingly to communicate your needs. And acclimate where you can.

If things “escalate”.. well… it’s likely your fault. We always need to look at our part first.

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[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe this is just me and my circle but if someone just wants to talk I'd typically expect that more over discord or something like that rather than phone call unless they're older.

Other than that phone call is for urgent stuff or something that's going to have a lot of back and forth and is quicker pver phone.

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[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In our family it looks exactly like this, that's why I found it very funny :)

We usually just chat (or videochat) and when f.e. dad randomly calls me then it's some serious business. And for that brief moment my mind jumps to most catastrophic scenarios why he could be calling me. And I think it goes both ways because when I call dad the first question usually is "Hi, did something happen?"

[–] Wollang@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I react this way when my mom calls because she never calls me and the one time she did, it was because my grandmother died.

[–] HiImYourDadsSon@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

For real, the last 2 times my mom called me was to tell me my dad had a heart attack and that my nephew died, so I 100% expect something like that if she calls me.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Crippling socal anxiety

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[–] Rin@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I think this is a skill issue

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This comic strip is flawed… nobody who would react that way to a phone call would have their phone out of silent mode.

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[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Are zoomers really like this?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry if I don't think minor topics are worthy of the immediate attention needed for a phone call?

Phone calls are reserved for emergencies. Otherwise you're just demanding the instant attention of someone for nothing.

[–] JackOfAllTraits@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not demanding, asking. Declining a call is always an option.

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I like to compare calling to someone knocking on your door incessantly for several seconds.

You can ignore it or decline to answer. It's still annoying af.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So why call in the first place? And how will I ever know what the call was about? Unless you text, of course, so why not just do that in the first place?

You may not intent for it to be a demand, but unless you have your phone on silent, it will keep ringing and making noise until you do something about it. It demands an action, and tries to get your attention as much as possible.

Which is why it's designated to emergencies. This makes calling more useful as well, because now you know calls are more important, and can actually treat them with more urgency. Otherwise you're just gonna end up ignoring what may be an actual emergency, because you treat every phone call the same.

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[–] mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Still better to text. Then if they can't talk right then you can still let them know what it is, and they can get back to you when they have a moment.

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[–] Ataraxia@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm 40. I don't even answer the phone if it rings. If it's important they can leave a message.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is something that idk if I'll ever get used to about lemmy

It's a meme. It's a joke. It's deliberately blown out of proportion.

Y'all need to calm tf down.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago (9 children)

so.. instead of discussing this... we should what? Post lol in all our coments?

[–] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

Lol i kinda enjoy the weirdly serious discussions about shitposts. Its both absurd and oddly insightful at times.

Lemmys will follow any topic over the edge of a cliff :P

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[–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To me it feels texting takes longer. Call someone up and it's done in less than a minute. Why wtite some long ass message?

Most folks don't even bother writing back... Message seen? Best forget about it.

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