this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2024
350 points (93.5% liked)

politics

19248 readers
2082 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] moistclump@lemmy.world 114 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Double negative confused me for a second and I was sad. Opposes the ban! Want gender affirming care available. Excellent.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh I missed that entirely. Sloppy writing, it should be arranged "opposes bans on gender affirming care".

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] VoilaChihuahua@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Same! "Supports care" would have been an easier concept, though a little different from "opposes ban" I guess...

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 40 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Then morally don't do it yourself and leave everyone else to make their own decisions.

Why do so many people care about what other people do to their own bodies?

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They oppose bans on care. But a slight majority thinks it's wrong to transition.

I think that's what you're looking for. They don't want to do it, but don't want to ban anyone who's doing it.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The title could've been more clear, thanks for providing that clarification

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

“But a slight majority thinks it's wrong to transition.”

Looks like someone forgot what freedom was about and needs to be educated on it.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I think the people surveyed agree with you here. They're saying that they're opposed to the surgery, but they don't want to ban the surgeries even though they oppose them.

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Minors aren't getting any surgeries.

Gender affirming care for trans kids involves seeing psychiatrists, social transitioning, and, if they're lucky, puberty blockers till they're old enough to decide whether they want to medically and surgically transition.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

I am aware. I wasn't in the survey

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are many misconceptions here. For instance, a sizeable fraction of the public believes that minors receive a sex-change surgery (they don’t) as opposed to just medication and therapy. I think most people are mostly worried that it is easy to transition and kids might do it without considering the consequences. These myths could be easily dispelled if they actually talk to transgenders.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

Good point but please say transgender people instead as transgender is an adjective.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

That's so nice! I'm so happy for US folks! Here in the UK only 12% support Gender-affirming care for trans minors, most want it banned, most actually don't support it for adults either 😢

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/43194-where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights-1 (you need to see the full results to see that)

[–] InvisibleHat@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’s really fucked up that so many people think it’s their place to be involved in other people’s personal medical decisions, especially when the medical guidelines are currently quite conservative, and based on medical consensus.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago

A lot of people are social authoritarians, but very few will admit it.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 6 months ago

It's not called TERF Island for nothing!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 6 months ago

Gosh, it's almost as though most people aren't hateful bigots. Hateful bigots should take note, but they won't. In fact, if they do it'll only be to point out how they're being persecuted. I dislike hateful bigots.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Ok, then don't get your kid gender affirming care. Why is it so fucking hard for people to mind their own business?

[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

This is a good headline. Most people oppose the bans.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›