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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 131 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

For those like me who don't listen to Alanis

You oughta know:

I want you to know

That I'm happy for you

I wish nothing, but

The best for you both

An older version of me

Is she perverted like me?

Would she go down on you in a theatre?

Does she speak eloquently?

And would she have your baby?

I'm sure she'd make a really excellent mother

'Cause the love that you gave that we made

Wasn't able to make it enough for you to be open wide

No, and every time you speak her name

Does she know how you told

Me you'd hold me until you died?

'Til you died, but you're still alive

And I'm here, to remind you

Of the mess you left when you went away

It's not fair, to deny me

Of the cross I bear that you gave to me

You, you, you oughta know

You seem very well

Things look peaceful

I'm not quite as well

I thought you should know

Did you forget about me Mr. Duplicity?

I hate to bug you in the middle of dinner

But it was a slap in the face

How quickly I was replaced

And are you thinking of me when you fuck her

'Cause the love that you gave that we made

Wasn't able to make it enough for you to be open wide

No, and every time you speak her name

Does she know how you told me

You'd hold me until you died?

'Til you died, but you're still alive

And I'm here, to remind you

Of the mess you left when you went away

It's not fair, to deny me

Of the cross I bear that you gave to me

You, you, you oughta know

'Cause the joke that you laid in the bed that was me

And I'm not gonna fade as soon as you close your eyes

And you know it

And every time I scratch my nails

Down someone else's back, I hope you feel it

Now can you feel it?

'Cause I'm here, to remind you

Of the mess you left when you went away

It's not fair to deny me

Of the cross I bear that you gave to me

You, you, you oughta know

Why I'm here, to remind you

Of the mess you left when you went away

It's not fair, to deny me

Of the cross I bear that you gave to me

You, you, you oughta know

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I’ve heard this song a thousand times growing up and never actually listened to the words. Wild. Good stuff.

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Important note: she's singing to Dave Coulier, Uncle Joey from Full house, who used Alanis to cheat on his wife.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 5 months ago

That is some VERY juice background info. Thank you hahaha

[–] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Alanis was also only like 18 or 19 at the time and he was at least 10 years older.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

✌️👉👍

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder how many millennials have attachment disorders simply because we grew up with this song being pretty much inescapable for almost a decade.

Like, yeah, she’s talented but has anyone ever studied what it does to a young mind when you grow up in a culture that blasts its relationship drama in song format 24/7 everywhere from the car radio to the supermarket, followed by The Offspring’s The Kids Aren’t Alright and Linkin Park’s Crawling?

In chronological order, it reads like a descent into madness if you ask me.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to go out on a limb and say none. Being abandoned by my parents gave me attachment issues, this is just a song.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago

Being abandoned into a world that processes its relationship drama for profit by playing it 24/7 in all public areas

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People outside the anglosphere were/are being blasted with American pop music just the same, with only a fraction of them understanding anything beyond the hook of any song. And those are simarly fucked up, so my guess is the effect is zero.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Someone really fucked her over lol those lyrics are something

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 74 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if she's got that cross-eyed bear that I gave to her...

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Best lyrics misinterpretation of that decade.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I am reasonably certain I have been to the theatre where she went down on that guy.

This is the most interesting fact about my life.

[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They should put up a plaque in the seat it happened.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Did you know? This seat is the only one in Ottawa to feature in an Alanis Morissette song.

This plaque is here to remind you."

[God I wish I knew how to Photoshop]

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"... of the mess she left when he came in her."

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nah, that's the stains and popcorn pieces on the floor they spackled over for preservation.

They look like jagged little pills now.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago

Nature is amazing!

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I am reasonably certain I have been to the theatre where she went down on that guy.

When contacted for comment, Morissette responded:

"Can confirm! I was giving him the side-eye."

[–] quilan@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This song was the absolute bomb to play on drums in Rock Band. I really loved the snare / bass drum flow with the hats.

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

I believe you can thank Taylor Hawkins for that. I know he was her tour drummer, but I'm pretty sure he wrote drum parts during his time with her, as well.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Saw Alanis Morisette on Austin City Limits recently. She's still got it. And the Jagged Little Pill musical was amazing. Definitely what some would consider very "woke", but Broadway doesn't usually attract the anti-woke crowd.

Remind me what Uncle Joey is doing now?

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Broadway doesn’t usually attract the anti-woke crowd.

The absolute shit show that occurred when my city's local theater group (of which I am a part) decided to hold auditions for Rent...

People who had been happily performing side by side with openly gay and trans cast members were suddenly pulling out bibles to quote scripture during meetings and getting "prayer circles" to surround the theater when they rehearsed...

Many friendships ended that year. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Edit: I agree with you, this just gave me a chuckle due to my own personal experience with a small number of people that are not representative of a whole.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You okay honey?

Edit: smh it's a number from Rent.

I'm afraid so.

Edit response: lemmy doesn't strike me as a place for tons of people knowing lines or lyrics to musicals, and isn't quite big enough for a lot of outliers... Could be wrong though. Although even if I didn't know all the words by heart, I'd have just taken your question as genuine concern with my mental state, given the people who were around me.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wait I don't understand. Why did Rent turn them suddenly openly trans- and homophobic?

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same reason why some gamers are okay with women and people of color being side characters but snap when they're in the leading role

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But everyone knows a wamen cannot into strength!

Black people didn't exist until the 1700s!

STOP EMJOYING THINGS I DON'T LIKE

Or something like that. Almost every argument for fantasy-type settings where "that character wouldn't be black/is described as X" but honestly if it doesn't affect the story, who gives a shit.

Yeah, sure. Plenty of characters are described in books as "alabaster/cream/other word for pasty ass white" but not once does it come up in the story. Nobody is racist against other colors. Slavery is for everyone including royalty. So why bother making a fuss about skin color or hair color when there are MOTHERFUCKING DRAGONS FLYING AROUND. If you're looking for realism, that wyvern fucked off a long time ago.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

Almost every argument for fantasy-type settings where “that character wouldn’t be black/is described as X” but honestly if it doesn’t affect the story

What shits me is that this so often happens with adaptations, and when the adaptation that did this ends up terrible they end up claiming it's proof they were right all along. As though the inclusion of a minority character is somehow the cause of terrible writing, set/prop/costume design, effects, acting (including from the cishet white actors), and direction. No, it couldn't possibly be because most adaptations are terrible regardless, it must be tHe gAYs.

Bible belt city in the US, but in a purple area.

They're oh so magnanimously okay with the gays when they'r not being "in your face about it" (aka literally just showing as much affection for a partner as any straight couple, or mentioning it in passing, or doing anything that could call attention to them being gay/trans/etc)

But having a musical that revolves around a trans woman, a gay couple, and involves AIDS? That was simply too much for their (self)righteous sensibilities, and must be protested!

I mean, they could have just not participated, kept their mouths shut, and ignored everything about it, but at least now we know who the secret garbage people are.

[–] match@pawb.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They should've done something good and Christian, like "Angels in America"

[–] homesnatch@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Somehow, apparently Mormons actually really like Book of Mormon.

[–] match@pawb.social 0 points 5 months ago

unsurprising to me, it still has a positive optimistic message even if it it's tearing into "some" mormons

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I also love the cartoon The Great North where the daughter has the imaginary best friend Alanis.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My first thought, when hearing about Alanis Morissette is, "Oh! God!"

And then immediately after that, "Maybe I should go play some skeeball."

Deeply under-rated comment.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Would she go down on you in a theater?

[–] Incogknighto@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

...about my car's extended warranty?

[–] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

She was so much better when she was going by just her first name.