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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 76 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (5 children)

That is up to the judiciary branch to decide. But I would not be lying if I'm split between actual jail, or community service with a suspended jail scentence.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 26 points 5 months ago

Community service would be hilarious

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Home confinement is always an option

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

With an ankle monitor.. I'm sorry .. the schadenfreude is just too much to resist.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

House arrest with an ankle monitor might be the way to go. No way he obeys the rules, so it can be a stepping stone into convicting him of even more stuff! Lol

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Is there any way that he could be released for a few hours a day to go work with a cleanup crew to pick up trash by a highway somewhere?

:)

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Needs a come with a complete communication blackout, no internet, no unnaproved phone calls.

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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 66 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No one is above the law, unless you're a cop or you did war crimes in one of the brown people countries. Or you have a lot of money.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 47 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Turns out a lot of people are above the law.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Specially those in charge of making and enforcing them. And their friends.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.” ― George Carlin

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[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 63 points 5 months ago (7 children)

HAHAHAHAHA TRUMP IS A CONVICTED FELON.

All those Republicans are gonna have to square their "law and order" worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.

What a bunch of dipshits

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All those Republicans are gonna have to square their "law and order" worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.

Why? Cognitive dissonance is their bread and butter. They wouldn't be Republicans if they couldn't believe two totally mutually exclusive things at the same time

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

They're not smart people are they? Forgot about that.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Indeed, the idea that a party that has as its central tenets: more tax cuts for billionaires, more "free speech", er cash, to buy off politicians, zero regulations and gigantic giveaways for corporations, is "for the little guy".

I suspect that so many of them are so crazy and/or so angry is that all that cognitive dissonance which is required to hold those two contradictory ideas in their head has to drive them to distraction.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A man with 34 felonies appointed one-third of our Supreme Court. Who are the dipshits again?

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The people who are going to vote for a convicted felon are still dipshits

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I personally want to congratulate Donald Trump for finally winning a popular vote, but remind everybody to vote. The dipshits will.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He finally got it. Congratulations to Sleepy, Crooked, Convicted Felon Donald!

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Republicans are gonna have to square their “law and order” worldview with voting for a CONVICTED FELON.

That's not how republicans work. The shit they do is always about the cruelty. The "law and order" shit was only ever to cheer on enforcement on people they don't like (dark skinned people, women, non-christians, etc).

You'll drive yourself nuts trying to do things like point out hypocrisy on their 'law and order' or any of their other paper-thin dogmas because they're all made to be bullshit in the first place.

The cruelty is the point. Once you start considering their actions through that lens, they become much more consistent and predictable.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

they're wriggling little worms they just add it to the lomg list of "yeah he's a ___, but he's a good one"

-rapist

-criminal

-moron

-traitor

-grifter

-politician

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They did square it.This is a witch hunt, fixed trial, he didn't even know what the ReAl charges were. They have it all squared away and are tripling down on voting for him. You know it's Bidens DoJ, I went to r/republican and the 3 top posts are full of this and more... sad

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is a witch hunt, fixed trial

He was convicted by 12 New York jurors, some of which were approved by his own defence.

You know it’s Bidens DoJ

The DoJ is a federal organisation, they don't prosecute state crimes.

I'm not American. How can it be that these Trump supporters are so ignorant of how their own country works?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

They voted for Donald, they are ignorant about how everything works.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It'll either be "It was a set-up by his political enemies" or "I don't care, he hates the people I hate".

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

“This is bad for Joe Biden”

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

May not be above the law but i bet hes above the punishment you or i would receive for that crime

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Always has been. Now he’s a convicted criminal.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Watch how far above the law he is when it’s time to be sentenced. While it’s good that he was found guilty- he’s going to show how broken the system is when it comes to holding people like him accountable.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  1. Trump's crimes will never be investigated
  2. Trump's crimes will never be referred to a grand jury
  3. Trump will never be indicted by a grand jury
  4. Trump will never go to trial
  5. The judge will throw the case out
  6. The jury will not return a verdict / hung jury
  7. Trump will not be convicted on all counts
  8. Trump will not be sentenced <--- You are here
  9. Trump will not be punished (jail / house arrest)
  10. Trump will appeal and overturn the verdict
  11. Trump is too old and frail to serve his sentence
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You left out "the prosecution will intentionally spoil their case" or something like it but I think you got all the big ones. I'm sure we could brainstorm up a few dozen more ways they could ruin the case intentionally along the way so as to prevent justice, but I'm tired and I don't want to give the other side any hints

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No one is above the law

I wish that was true, but I mean, come on...

Does anyone honestly believe that?

I mean, it's great trump is guilty is here, but this is an incredibly tone deaf comment considering the SC is literally saying they're above the law right now...

Bannon still isn't in jail, Rudy isn't in jail, trumps major case is being heard by a judge he appointed that literally doesn't understand the basics of her job...

None of the people who funded this will ever even see charges...

Like, sentencing guidelines for this is probation. It's a win, but it's mostly performative, we're nowhere close to being done.

That's the thing about progress, we can't stop fighting for more, especially when the other said is full on fascists. There's no breaks to celebrate, the fascists never stop.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look man, I'm as cynical as it gets but this is good news and a step in the right direction.

Personally the hush money stuff to me is the least consequential but it opens the doors hopefully to nail the fucker on his other crimes.

[–] jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

Al Capone didn't go to prison for operating a racket or any of the numerous murders he committed or was involved with. He went to prison for tax evasion. This might be the closest we get to him ever being held accountable and I'll take it. Hopefully the court understands this and gives him the maximum sentence knowing the context of his actions.

It's a bit disappointing, but that's just how things work.

Also, given that Trump has been comparing himself to Al Capone recently in his speeches, this is quite hilarious outcome.

[–] NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"Now that the Jury has rendered a verdict and Mr. Trump is a convicted felon, it is time for him to end his campaign for president. It goes without saying that it is below the dignity of the office and of our politics for a major party to be represented in this campaign by a convicted felon. I am confident MR. Trump will do right by his party and our country by suspending his campaign so that someone more deserving can receive the Republican party nomination. I look forward to a spirited campaign with the eventual nominee this fall."

  • Biden, in an alternate universe where democrats have spines.

Instead we get this one line " look at us, we're above the fray, we're not getting in the mud" statement, so the news just fills the vaccume with whatever bullshit trump is spouting at the moment. I guess the Biden campaign thinks convicted felon is not an issue worth campaigning on? Good call guys. Let's see how that is working (checks polls, Biden down by 5 or more points in 11 swing states), OK cool so we're fucked thanks Biden.

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

'No one is above the law'

see: true billionaires

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well you know what they say, 287th time's the charm.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago

I guffawed thank you.

[–] lettruthout@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, can we next abide by the rulings of the ICC?

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

LoL tell that to the Supreme Court!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago

Except bibi

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

My money is on absolutely nothing will happen to him

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I like the attitude. It's not like he'll ever pay the half billion he owes to the court either, right?

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Of course not. If it were you or I we would have been detained from the start and be liable for all fees

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