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Which side of the bed is the left side? Is the answer based on the perspective of laying in the bed (person's head at the head end)? Is the answer based on viewing it from the foot of the bed, looking at the head of the bed? Is there an "anatomical position" or special terminology like in boating for this?

For context: My boyfriend and I can't agree on this. We change who gets which side based on the shoulder we'd predominantly sleep on and how it's feeling. This let's us get good cuddles before shoulder pain gets irritated. He comes to bed after me. A while back he asked what side I'm sleeping on. I said "left". Later that night, he comes in and almost lays directly on me because he claims "left" is the other side. Since then we have to describe which side using complicated descriptions.

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[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My wife sleeps in the middle, like a snow angel, so I always sleep on what's left.

[–] tacostrange@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Wootz@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 months ago

The story of my life.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Oh, you are a witty one. Good answer.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Right, left if you're looking at the bed from the foot.

Stage right, stage left if you're looking out from the bed toward the foot.

[–] Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He did theater stuff in HS, so we may adapt this if neither of us concede. Good work around.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Theater stuff in high school.... Is that like making out backstage after rehearsal?

Probably along the same lines as band camp. I'm sure there's a few "This one time..." stories.

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[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 36 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I'd say it'd be from the perspective of laying in it, since no one cares what side of the bed is which unless they're going to lay in it

[–] calabast@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah, but as you say, people only care when they're "going to" lay in it, meaning they're not in the bed yet. Once you're in bed, you pretty much never need to specify the left or right side, you can say "shit, i spilled a drink on your side!"

So, since we only care about left and right sides while we're not in bed, I say who cares about the in-bed perspective. What matters is how it is oriented while you're standing up and looking at it. So that's how I'd assign left and right side.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 5 points 5 months ago

To that, I'd say it's likely better if we use landmarks. Identify unique furniture or a window or something on each side. Then, refer to them as "Window side" or "Lamp side".

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago

I agree, only sensible way to do it

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[–] agelord@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Forget left-right. Use port and starboard.

[–] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

This is the correct answer. It's how ships avoid running into each other. When whoever is steering the vessel is facing the bow (front, usually the pointy bit), port is their left, starboard their right. Ship's running lights are red on the port side, green on the left. So if you're out on the water at night, you can immediately see whether a ship is coming towards you or moving away. The rule for passing an oncoming vessel is "port to port", thus avoiding confusion and collision.

Sitting up in bed I would consider the headboard the stern, because I have my back to it, and the foot the bow. So the area to starboard is right, and portside is left. Ahoy maties!!!

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 9 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Well, so which is the front and which is the back?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The front is where the spoiler isn't.

Race car beds FTW.

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[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Beds have a head and a foot, so the head is fore and the foot aft.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Ah. But in a bed race, it's foot-first, implying a direction of travel that itself dictates head==aft and foot==fore. Totally different from how ironman flies, fwiw.

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 5 points 5 months ago

You mean "prow" and "stern".

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[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Driver's side and passengers side?

Stage left and stage right? (Depends on where your curtains are).

[–] agelord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

People drive in different sides in different parts of the world.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago

Fuck it, topside, underside.

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[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We use "my side" and "your side" so it's always correct from any perspective.

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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The answer is easy, but to get to it, a little bit of a thought experiment is probably helpful. I say, look to how we define our own left and right sides for guidance. When facing forward, our left hand is on the left side of our body, and the right hand is on the right side of the body. Perspective doesn't matter, and there is no ambiguity.

Now we need to extend this to the bed. A bed has a head, just like a person does. So where would its face be? It seems clear to me, unless you are sleeping on a dead mattress, that the face is clearly going to be looking upwards at the ceiling at the head of the bed. So the left side of the bed, if you are standing at the foot of the bed looking at it, would be on your right. Just like the left side of your friend, when you are standing in front of them and looking at them, is on your right.

Now if you just imagine the mattress to be perfectly spherical and in a frictionless environment.......

(Obviously just having fun with this answer, but it's also the right answer)

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

It’s easiest if you think of the bed as a person. I call mine “Ed the Bed”

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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Stage left is the only definition that matters here, unless you have good reason to care about audience left owo

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

House left is the better methodology, you’re going to be talking about sides while looking at the bed more often than while already in it.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

take a cue from the theater folk: stage left/right is defined by the performers' perspective. Call it "bed left" and "bed right" to talk about it from the perspective of someone on the bed, and "standing left" or "standing right" to talk about the perspective of someone looking at the bed

Although it's kinda silly to me that anyone's default orientation would be from looking at the bed, which is not the position most commonly associated with the thing famous for laying in it.

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[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Either:

  • you establish a convention and both learn to choose one perspective or the other
  • one of you tries to do that and the other pretends not to agree, because it's cute and fun as a form of teasing

Pick one and I hope whatever you pick works for both of you. Agreement is easy, but teasing can be fun.

[–] Mostly_Harmless_Variant@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A very realistic answer. It's unlikely either of us will concede so this is will be a perpetual joke.

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[–] TostiHawaii@feddit.nl 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If you lay in the bed, depending on if you are lying on your back or stomach, left and right still change.

Ususally a bed is positioned with the head against a wall, so if you are facing the bed from the foot end, left and right are always the same. So I vote left/right is as seen from the foot end of the bed.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Stand at the base.

Face the head

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[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Imagine the bed is a clock. The 12 o’clock position is at the head — I don’t think anything else makes sense. That makes it unambiguous.

The positions are 3 o’clock and 9 o’clock.

[–] amelia@feddit.de 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And 3 is obviously on the right side of a clock and 9 on the left so the debate is settled.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Not if you consider the clock’s face is facing you. Facing your face. And so you can’t expect its right and wrong to be the same as yours.

Let’s say you have a day to move your stuff and you’re down to the last minute. You only have time for one more trip back inside. Your girlfriend says to grab whatever’s left of the clock. You go inside and look at its clockwork face, still gazing up at you with blank, bright numbers. Where the clock has hung all these years, to one side there’s a window with a bottle sitting there. To the other a vase with flowers. What do you take? What’s left of the clock, the vase, or do you say screw it and grab the bottle, without bothering to read carefully what’s inside?

I’m afraid this is all just more confusing, sorry

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Driver side, passenger side.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Get nautical! Port and starboard.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I can get on board with this! (Pun intended)

But then which side is the Bow and which the Stern?

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago

The bow would be the foot end, since you're looking in that direction

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

No right or left.

Window side or door side.

If this doesn't apply to your bed, then you have aligned the bed improperly.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We customarily refer to the ends of the bed as "head" and "foot" which are analagous to the head and foot of a sail in nautical terms. Therefore "forward" in the ordinary bed naturally corresponds to the direction of straight up toward the ceiling, and the port side is the one on your left when lying in the bed facing that way.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I have a problem with right and left, and this question illustrates it pretty well. I tend to give directions as east, west, north, south. Left and right move around when you do, so can't really be assigned to stationary items like a bed. Our bed has a northwest side and a southeast side.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are whole tribes of people who have no words for left and right but have words for the cardinal directions; and all directions or labeling is based on one's position and facing in these directions. "put this in your East hand" could be an imperative in the culture.

Having said that, leverage stage direction: Left and Right is Audience Left and Right, whereas Stage Left and Stage Right also exists and is generally the reverse. For instance, I exit Stage Left but to look at it you'd think it was the Right.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Following because this drives me nuts too

Someone save us, give us an authoritative answer

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[–] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Obviously the perspective of lying on the bed face-up. Though I may be biased because our bed is next to the window (feet side) so you can't look at it form the foot of the bed -- either from the side or behind our heads

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