Any vulnerability will be exploited. The fact that Lemmy federates and caches media by default is a huge vulnerability in a decentralized network. This was inevitable, I'm just glad I didn't wind up having to see it myself.
General Discussion
Welcome to Lemmy.World General!
This is a community for general discussion where you can get your bearings in the fediverse. Discuss topics & ask questions that don't seem to fit in any other community, or don't have an active community yet.
🪆 About Lemmy World
🧭 Finding Communities
Feel free to ask here or over in: !lemmy411@lemmy.ca!
Also keep an eye on:
- !newcommunities@lemmy.world
- !communitypromo@lemmy.ca
- !new_communities@mander.xyz
- !communityspotlight@lemmy.world
- !wowthislemmyexists@lemmy.ca!
For more involved tools to find communities to join: check out Lemmyverse!
💬 Additional Discussion Focused Communities:
- !actual_discussion@lemmy.ca - Note this is for more serious discussions.
- !casualconversation@lemm.ee - The opposite of the above, for more laidback chat!
- !letstalkaboutgames@feddit.uk - Into video games? Here's a place to discuss them!
- !movies@lemm.ee - Watched a movie and wanna talk to others about it? Here's a place to do so!
- !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world - Want to talk politics apart from political news? Here's a community for that!
Rules and Policies
Remember, Lemmy World rules also apply here.
0. See: Rules for Users.
- No bigotry: including racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
- Be respectful. Everyone should feel welcome here.
- Be thoughtful and helpful: even with ‘silly’ questions. The world won’t be made better by dismissive comments to others on Lemmy.
- Link posts should include some context/opinion in the body text when the title is unaltered, or be titled to encourage discussion.
- Posts concerning other instances' activity/decisions are better suited to !fediverse@lemmy.world or !lemmydrama@lemmy.world communities.
- No Ads/Spamming.
- No NSFW content.
Growing pains of the fediverse. Hopefully we tackle this early and don't have repeats
How is this a specific weakness of lemmy though? What's stopping people from posting CSAM on reddit or facebook or whatever?
Those sites are centralized and governed by a single private company, so they can have a dedicated team of content moderators to check and verify illegal content. Federation and how lemmy caches content on all federated instances means when someone posts illegal stuff on one instance, every other connected instance gets a copy too. So random guy running an instance in his room has to go find the content and purge it themselves even though it wasn’t posted directly on their instance, or they can be held legally liable depending on the country they’re in. It’s also the reason (whether you agree with it or not) why instances like .world preemptively blocked piracy communities.
Lemmy.world should 100% be reporting this to the FBI: https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/report-violations
Lemmy.world is in Finland, though. The FBI doesn't have jurisdiction there, and they would have to report it to the corresponding Finnish counterpart.
Time to stop browsing new. Jesus. I hope they get caught and locked up for a long time.
Edit: wtf, it still shows up browsing by top hour despite shittons of down votes. That's an actual issue. Sorting by "top" anything should not include heavily down voted posts. I hope lemmy.world is working with the FBI and whatever country this garbage is coming from to fuck them up.
I just did that but I didn't see it. Guess I should count myself lucky though.
Yep just rolled past that. Not even blurred nsfw either.
Cunt needs to be locked away
At first I was confused and thought I was on a porn sub, then I was confused as to why this was a shitpost, then I looked closer at her physique and I wanted to gouge my eyes out.
What is wrong with people?
Spez is posting CP to Lemmy
He's still angry that he was forced to shut down r/jailbait
Crazy to think Spez actually got a kick out of moderating a community flooded with CSAM
Today I saw a post on a gardening instance self hosted by someone, which contains only one gardening community.
It was small and OP said thanks to the few frequent visitors and traffic from other instances accounts but they are shutting it down since someone posted (I assume) CSAM material on their instance. Doesn't want to risk it of course so a nice community now has to leave.
Ah man, I liked that community :/
The post was federated to my server, not the image. Am I fine? Unfortunately to purge it I'll have to look at it.
I'll add a feature to photon where you can purge posts directly from the modlog so you don't have to view the post.
So glad I missed it.
I'm so glad I didn't end up spinning up my own instance like I was planning. I feel sorry for the mods and admins.
A risky move for trolling. Way to get your name on the sex offenders list.
Sex offender list? In my country it’s a super serious crime, you’ll get imprisoned.
There was a guy a while back that got assaulted by masked police in his own home because police believed he was a paedophile because they’d been tipped off that he had child porn.
He didn’t. His boyfriend (who was 30) was just really twinky. Sadly there were no repercussions for the police.
Fuck, you just reminded me of a story that happened like 10 years ago. We were drunk as fuck and my friend said that they have just finiahed their pool at their parents house and we thought it would ve a great idea to take a dip at 6 in the morning. So we were pooling around, when suddenly the police arrived. They didn't even see us, they went straight for the front door. We snuck out and my friend who (i believe) still lived there, went to the police and talked to someone. He was in cuffs vefore he said much.
We sat in their neighbours porch and kinda watched ir all pan out. They took computers and everyone who lived there with them. We were shocked, but also so drunk we could barely even stand.
So turned out that somehow they found out that there is child porn on their family computer, which was there because his little brother was like 12 and super horny and he was horny for girls his age. It was such a mess.
jesus fucking christ i guess imma log off lemmy for a while and maybe check back in 2 weeks
god damn holy shit what the fuck
Holy crap. That's insane! I was wondering what prompted the admins to do the sign up restriction. Makes perfect sense now.
I'm hoping the Lemmy devs are working on some better moderation & filtering tools. The mods have their hands full...
Thanks for the warning, please tell me it has been removed at this point
Someone wants this site shut down, I guess.
It doesn’t work that way. There is safe harbor for websites as long as they are proactive and report it as soon as they discover the issue.
These arent corporate monoliths, these are individual moderators who own and operate at their leisure.
Imagine being spammed with these types of images, it must be pretty taxing mentally to have that kind of toxicity hurled at them at what I assume is only going to get worse.
I was recently banning someone for posting child porn. Those people are disgusting.
I just blocked the user in question as well as the whole community.
Don't know if it's the first time for this to happen, but I'm pretty sure it's not the last. Especially now that it's discussed, some trolls will board the train and do it, too.
Even just the slightest risk of some shit like this turning up on my feed is an absolute no-go.