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Former German diplomat Wolfgang Ischinger says Western leaders should be making more threats and be willing to follow them through.

The West should spend less time fretting about Russian President Vladimir Putin's red lines and set its own, says veteran German diplomat Wolfgang Ischinger. 

“Russia keeps saying, if you do this, if you cross this or that red line, we might escalate,” said the 78-year-old onetime chairman of the Munich Security Conference. “Why don't we turn this thing around and say to them: ‘We have lines and if you bomb one more civilian building, then you shouldn't be surprised if, say, we deliver Taurus cruise missiles or America allows Ukraine to strike military targets inside Russia’?”

 That way the onus will be on Moscow to decide whether to cross the red lines — or face the consequences.

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[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, we tried that. With the neighboring countries intervening and waging war, and the following wars we ended up here. But this time it will be different.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uh... What? Israel is, and has always been from the planning phase, a Jewish-dominated settler colony. This is literally why they caused the Nakba. How does that sound like a multiethnic democracy?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The original plans where also a lot smaller and entitled Palestinians to a lot of land and their own state. Neighboring countries and Palestinians would not have it. The region was english ruled because the ottomans sided with Germany in ww1.. they where by definition the baddies. Then WW2 happened. You seem to be cherry picking a lot of stuff that happened over the course of the last 120 years or so for that area.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The original plans where also a lot smaller and entitled Palestinians to a lot of land and their own state.

A lot smaller, but with a lot of the better land and half the Palestinian population. Would you agree to half the people of your country being ruled by an explicitly hostile, foreign people?

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Way to move the goalposts... It's a series of own goals compounded by "help" from their friends that landed the Palestinians in this horror. In Turn the current horror now has 3 revisionist antisemites in a trenchcoat using the poor Palestinians as a beard to practice their antisemitism out in the open.