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This article describes the real reason behind the push back to the office. It's about rich people gambling on real estate and now office buildings are empty.

These same people own newspapers and media channels which is why their crying voices are being pushed.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It was always about control.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Totally, one of the boomer managers at my company was ranting about remote work a few months ago, saying stupid stuff like, "If somebody is remote working, how do I know they are actually working and not just mowing their lawn or cleaning their house?"

  1. That's the point, it's better for people to have free time in their day to actually take care of life stuff.

  2. If your management method requires you to constantly monitor your employees to make sure you're squeezing every last ounce of "productivity" out of them, you're a shitty manager.

  3. How do you know your employees are working now and not just idly clicking their mice and staring at their screens zoned out? How do you know if an employee is deliberately sandbagging you and pretending they are at 100% capacity when they are actually at 75%?

All those questions betray the fact that they don't actually care about their employees well-being, they don't actually care about creating intelligent metrics for productivity or work capacity, they just want control. They want to impose the same brutality they had imposed on them.

It's very similar to the mentality that those anti-student loan forgiveness folks have. "It's unfair that I had to slave away to pay off my student loans and they don't. So I want everybody else to suffer just as much as I did."

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

"If somebody is remote working, how do I know they are actually working and not just mowing their lawn or cleaning their house?"

By how much work they are getting done. If they are completing the amount of work expected of them what does it matter if they are doing things in-between?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If you've got time to lean, you've got time to clean!

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The cruelty is the point

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It’s very similar to the mentality that those anti-student loan forgiveness folks have. “It’s unfair that I had to slave away to pay off my student loans and they don’t. So I want everybody else to suffer just as much as I did.”

I know this is a tangent but I want to bring it up. Some of us are opposed to student loan forgiveness because it's a one time handout to millennials that does nothing to actually fix the problem. Not just because we demand other people suffer.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Money is a currency for control... End goal is ownership and control

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes I was thinking about this too, but in the end money and control depend on each other.

[–] orl0pl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Infinite money glitch

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah but look deeper. Materially. Corporate real estate, billions of dollars of it sitting empty during the pandemic.

Same with abortion. Certainly about control to a point but mainly about US citizens not having enough kids to keep up the meat grinder in the future.

There's always a material reason.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Should we build a world that people want to raise a family in? Nah! Let's just force them to have children!"