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AI-Generated Code is Causing Outages and Security Issues in Businesses (www.techrepublic.com)

submitted 3 months ago by jaschop@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 35 points 3 months ago (3 children)

have they tried writing better prompts? my lived experience says that because it works for me, it should work as long as you write good prompts. prompts prompts prompts. I am very smart. /s

[–] luciole@beehaw.org 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Oh wow. The article says basically that but without the /s and then it gets even better. This is according to Mister AI Professor Ethan Mollick From The University Of Warthon and the link goes to a tweet (the highest form of academia) saying:

The problem with calling “prompt engineering” a form of programming is that it isn’t like what we call coding

In fact, coders are often bad at prompting because AI doesn’t do things consistently or work like code. The best prompters I know can’t code at all. They “teach” the AI.

Which is just great considering the next excuse in the text is:

this is due to insufficient reviews, either because the company has not implemented robust code quality and code-review practices, or because developers are scrutinising AI-written code less than they would scrutinise their own code

So who the fuck even reviews the prompt engineers’ code sludge, Mister AI Professor Of Twitter?

Whole text is such a sad cope.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

developers are scrutinising AI-written code less than they would scrutinise their own code

Wait, is this how Those People claim that Copilot actually "improved their productivity"? They just don't fucking read what the machine output?

I was always like "how can Copilot make me code faster if all it does is give me bad code to review which takes more than just writing it" and the answer is "what do you mean review"????

[–] arbitraryidentifier@awful.systems 13 points 3 months ago

Wait, is this how Those People claim that Copilot actually “improved their productivity”? They just don’t fucking read what the machine output?

Yes, that's exactly what it is. That and boilerplate, but it probably makes all kinds of errors that they don't noticed, because the build didn't fail.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Programmers hate programming and love code reviewing, right? Right?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Soon they will try to fix this problem by having 2 forms of LLM do team coding. The surprised Pikachu faces will be something

[–] arbitraryidentifier@awful.systems 11 points 3 months ago

Looking forward to the LLM vs LLM PRs with hundreds of back and forth commit-request changes-commit cycles. Most of it just flipping a field between final and not final.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I didn't even read the article. Still believe in the prompts.

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@swlabr @jaschop

I fixed the quote from the article "programmers are not known for being great at writing prompts because many of us find the whole idea offensive and stupid"

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 18 points 3 months ago

I'm reminded of the guy in a previous thread who claimed LLMs helped him as a rubber duck partner. You know - the troubleshooting technique named for its efficacy when working with a bath toy.

[–] regrub@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Prompt engineering is the same as software engineering, right?