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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but he has millions of shares he paid nothing for.

He's going to be the only one who doesn't lose money, because he paid nothing for his stock.

Even if it's $0.01 the day he can sell, it's all profit.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Someone has to buy the stock that he sells. It doesn't magically turn into money cause it has a listed value that day.

Sure, there can be some money laundering and foreign "investments" but the SEC really doesn't like stock manipulation.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The SEC doesn't do jack shit about anything. The SEC are toothless pretend watchdogs created by and staffed by former stock marketers who exist for the sole purpose of making the public think there is oversight and accountability.

It is the stock market version of the police's internal affairs.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to Martha Stewart and Elon Musk.

SEC isn't a savior, but they do enforce the law when it's blatant.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Martha Stewart's case was two decades ago. How many people have served jail time for fraud based on the SEC since then?

Musk got the regular slap on the wrist pretend punishment that the SEC does to appear legitimate. He also continues to openly manipulate stocks with no further accountability.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't assume it is zero, but I assume it is far fewer than it should be since Musk has been openly manipulating the market without any punishment for years.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

then just say that rather than asking "how many" because apparently no number would be high enough to meet your standard.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry I might have hurt the SEC's feelings. Will you ever forgive me?

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Good ol' Lemmy maturity.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It'll definitely cause the price to drop and will probably destroy the company's selling so much at once.

But it happens all the time.

And trump supporters are 100% dumb enough to "buy the dip".

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

“buy the dip”.

HODL the bag

Even worse, they don't have to believe even that.

Some will believe that this is "charity stock" and buy the stock as it spirals to zero as "charity" for their candidate...

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

They've already bought the dipshit.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The listed value is more or less the amount currently being offered by people who want to buy the stock. So if it has a listed value then he can sell it.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If there's a single copy of a comic book that sells for $1,000 that doesn't mean you can sell 100 of them for that price.

If there's a couple dozen shares of a stock selling for $15, that doesn't mean there's enough buyers to pay for a million of them at that price.

If trump dumps all his shares, the stock price will crash, and eventually there won't be ANYONE to buy the stock and the price will be effectively $0.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Comic books don't have market makers. Stocks generally do.

They act as intermediaries so individual stock buyers don't have to find individual stock sellers. Which means the companies that agree to act as market makers are always willing to buy a stock and always willing to sell it. When buyers and sellers don't balance, they adjust the stock price until they do (always making a slight profit on arbitrage).

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If he can sell all his 115M shares for $0.72 (doubtful) he'll have just enough to pay off E. Jean Carroll.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

What?

It's at 15.49, I think he can sell a week or two after the election. It'll keep falling, but he has a financial incentive to push it more and more in the run up to the election.

He went back to Twitter for the views, but immediately after the election he'll pivot back to pumping it full time.

Id be surprised if it's under $5. Someone that wants a favor could buy millions of it, hoping that if more do it or the rubes buy in, it would be a bribe that actually made money.

Classic pyramid scheme shit. The more that do it, the more others will because the price goes up.

I'd be surprised if it's less than this by the time trump can sell, and if he loses I think it'll really jump up immediately after the election