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I just want to remind people. You're going to hear about this in the coming weeks. When some dumb fuck tells you that the Afghan withdrawal was a disaster:
Ask why the 3 past Presidents kicked the can down the road (rhetorical: It was ALWAYS going to be a disaster on the ground and politically disadvantageous).
Ask them if they know how many total US service members died under Trump's term versus Biden's in Afghanistan. (HINT: The total deaths under Trump is SIXTY-FIVE. The total under Biden: 13)
Thanks to Biden, ZERO American servicemen have died in 2022, 2023, and 2024 in Afghanistan — the first 0 years since 2001.
Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan will be praised in history books as a political sacrifice that ultimately saved more American lives in the long-run.
The withdrawal from Afghanistan is the the most genuine "the buck stops here", that I can remember. He ripped off the bandaid and it was the right call
The only question I ask is, who started both illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan??
Republicans! W Bush. Everything else is bullshittery designed to deflect blame from Republicans and the mess they caused.
I've said it before, Republicans are assholes that take a shit in your living room then complain about how you are cleaning it up and how you're not fast enough.
And Republicans will have the balls to tell you they were against it from the start which pisses me off more. I mean who invented freedom fries?!
I distinctly remember my parents being in the deep minority of our area and our extended family in their protest of especially Iraq and prolonged duration in Afghanistan. It's actually a big part of what flipped my family to Democrats and never looked back.
Fox News was beating the drums of war, Bush was saying, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists," and I would see signs in the South while on vacation saying, "Nuke the bastards"
Republicans dragged Democrats along and yes many Democrats begrudgingly went along because the hysteria was so great that if you went against the war we would only have had 1 party now.
Democrats were the first to oppose, and as said, Democrats were the ones to end it.
Maybe. But I still hear people insist we could have won Vietnam.
I hear people say the world is flat. Never should have been in Vietnam in the first place.
The ideas don't come ex nihilo, though. There's a vested interest among the large and influential pro-war lobbying community to convince policy makers and voters that these endless wars are beneficial, even part of some utopian global project of peace.
"Vietnam was winnable" as an idea persists because it was so profitable. And because Americans really want to believe their military is this unstoppable force, capable of solving any foreign policy problem.