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TL;DR because I get the feeling that investing any more energy here is a waste of time:
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(E: one of the main things OP seems to be missing is that capitalism is just as much a system of oppression as racism, sexism, and the rest are)
Yep, even MLK was saying it decades ago:
https://letterfromjail.com/
For some reason I don't think OP will ever read that letter tho...
They are reading the replies, but from their replies they just don't care about their own question. They're just a debate me chud.
Account is 3 days old, and of course OP couldn't resist implying this is a new account after their old one was deleted/banned in that little blurb no one fills out
They're not here for genuine discussion
Yup, I saw their one reply, which is why I edited mine lol
Politics is not as simple as black and white.
You could support the left wing on good ideas and support the good right wing ideas when they make sense and still fight injustices.
Exactly which "good right wing ideas" are you referring to? Criminalizing LGBTQ? Ending elections? Killing the immigration system? Shoveling money at the rich?
In reality:
You asked what good ideas to which he responded limiting government spending. Then you rebuke the notion that limiting wasteful spending is a fundamental good idea by criticizing politicians for not doing it in military boondoggles or with corporate welfare. Those are critiques of politicians not the ideas, as those negative examples are when the idea isn't applied.
I agree that we should curtail wasteful military spending and corporate welfare. But in advocating for those you yourself advocate for the idea of limiting government spending.
My point is that the right doesn't care about actually reducing the deficit, they make noises about it when a Democrat is in office but the second they get power it magically disappears. It's just an excuse to be awful.
Remember Trump's big tax bill? 10 TRILLION in extra debt, mostly to cut taxes for the rich. What did he cut? A few million worth of stuff that actually helps people.
By your logic someone can say they're voting for trump.to.make America great again, and you'd expect people to take that on face value and pretend it's an honest position.
Like, I don't know how to break this to you, but fascists lie about a lot shit, most of what they say are lies.
So demanding people pretend they're not lying, won't get you honest discussion, because that's not what you're doing.
If you don't think there's trump stans out there who believe trump will do just that you need to touch grass.
What is the lie there? That they actually picking a candidate who they want to make the country worse? The blunt truth is that to them the policies you don't like are good ones.
Insisting otherwise simply fuels polarization which furthers radicalization.
And I could say I started smoking crack to make my workday as a pilot more productive, and it's safer because I'm more alert....
And anyone that agreed with me would be as stupid as I would be for saying that.
We don't have to treat every crazy thing someone says as valid because they believe it. Opinions aren't facts, and lots of opinions are very very stupid that doesn't make them magically viable. The real world doesn't work off Tinkerbell logic homie.